Interview | Waking Up to Our Shadow with Beatrice Chestnut

Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

In this week’s episode, we have the privilege of talking with the one and only Beatrice Chestnut. Beatrice joined us to talk about her new book with Uranio Paes, The Enneagram Guide to Waking Up. But, the conversation doesn’t stop there. We get to know Beatrice beyond her enneagram teaching and writing, and the result was a fun and meaningful conversation.

6:10 - Beatrice’s thoughts on the enneagram and our stories

7:40 - Getting to know Beatrice [hobbies, interests, TV shows]

14:10 - The inspiration behind her new book

17:45 - Her experience co writing with Uranio Paes

19:30 - How her perspectives shifted since she wrote her earlier books

21:00 - How to engage the book

22:10 - “Falling asleep” and “waking up”

25:15 - How do we know we’re awake?

28:20 - The path before each type

33:00 - How Beatrice approaching coaching with the enneagram

38:00 - The Enneagram and Dante’s Divine Comedy as a map of process

40:00 - The dangers of over-pathologizing Type 4s

43:00 - Beatrice’s approach to the subtypes

53:00 - The shadows of the subtypes

59:05 - Beatrice talks about the shadows of our subtypes [Abram: SX9 // Creek: SP4 // Drew: SP3]

1:11:35 - How to follow Beatrice’s work

Follow Beatrice: cpenneagram.com // beatricechestnut.com

The Enneagram Guide to Waking Up

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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”

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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore

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• Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram