Here’s Part 2 of our Season Finale: Revisiting Ego & Essence. To end our season, we have a deep and meaningful conversation with enneagram legends Russ Hudson and Mario Sikora on these often used, often misunderstood concepts. Lee Fields joins the Fathoms crew for this conversation, which always makes us better. [2:00] How can we move forward with …

It’s here! Part 1 of our season finale: Revisiting Ego & Essence. To end our season, we have a deep and meaningful conversation with enneagram legends Russ Hudson and Mario Sikora on these often used, often misunderstood concepts. Lee Fields joins the Fathoms crew for this conversation, which always makes us better. [1:00] A quick recap of this sea…

Today we debrief our three-episode series on trauma. If you haven’t listened to those interviews with Sharon K. Ball, Dr. B, and Miles Adcox, be sure to check them out! We also talk about our next episode, where we revisit the concepts of ego and essence. In that episode we’re joined by enneagram legends Mario Sikora and Russ Hudson! [2:00] Reflect…

Today we finish our series of conversations on trauma and personhood with Miles Adcox. He is the Chairman and Owner of Onsite, an internationally-known emotional wellness lifestyle brand that delivers life-changing personal growth workshops, digital mental health master classes, emotionally smart leadership retreats, and residential emotional welln…

We continue our series on trauma and personhood with another conversation with Dr. Kristin Beasley. Dr. B is a clinical psychologist who specializes in trauma and early childhood development. Dr. B helps us clarify terms such as “victim” and “victimhood.” She provides practical insight on how to more compassionately work with those who have experie…

In this first episode on trauma, we interview Sharon K. Ball. Licensed therapist and enneagram professional who specializes in trauma and the enneagram. Sharon is the author of Reclaiming You: Using the Enneagram to Move from Trauma to Resilience. [1:10] Abram asks Sharon for her “top strength in her Myers-briggs finder” (?) [2:00] Clarifying some …

In this episode, we reflect upon our recent conversation with singer/songwriter Andy Squyres. If you haven't listened to that episode, go check it out and then come back and reflect with us. We look forward to our next topic, trauma and personhood. Andy’s Instagram post that inspired our conversation: https://www.instagram.com/p/CgUkgrYOn6M/ Follow…

In this episode, we’re joined by singer/songwriter Andy Squyres (or “song doula” to Linz). Andy is a brilliant creative and a deep thinker who challenges our assumptions about the enneagram and the broader self help world. Andy is familiar with the enneagram but by no means a practitioner. He’s the perfect guest to share much needed perspective abo…

Wrapping up our mini-series on aging and personhood, the Fathoms hosts reflect upon our episodes with the wonderful and wise Clare Loughrige. They also look ahead to our upcoming conversation with poet/musician Andy Squyres, who has some major and important critiques of the enneagram. Join our Marco Polo Sharecast: https://onmarcopolo.com/sharecast…

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In this episode, we have the first of an incredible 2 part conversation with enneagram author and teacher Clare Loughrige. We talk to Clare about the aging process and how it impacts the dynamics of personhood, especially the “Third Act” of life. Have a listen and be on the lookout for part 2 of this series later this week. [1:40] How Western cultu…

In this episode, the Fathoms hosts reflect upon our previous two episodes focused on chronic illness. If you haven’t listened to our conversations with Brook Gurrad and K.J. Ramsey, stop what you’re doing right now and have a listen. The hosts also ask for your help on an upcoming episode, and introduce our next topic we’re exploring in this season…

In this episode, the Fathoms co-hosts, are joined by Lee Fields and Milton Stewart to celebrate Fathoms’ 100th episode and to announce and exciting new partnership with the IEA as temporary hosts of the International Enneagram Association Podcast for this year’s global conference. Listen as they all share what this year’s theme, “Unite & Ignite,” m…

We continue the conversation on chronic illness and personhood with our friend, the brilliant author and therapist, K.J. Ramsey. K.J. offers profound and practical wisdom on suffering and chronic illness, and she's ennea-fluent. Her books include: This Too Shall Last: Finding Grace When Suffering Lingers The Lord is My Courage: Stepping Through the…

Interview | Chronic Illness: When Health Means Standing Still with Brooke Gurrad In this episode, we interview Brooke Gurrad of The Bonus Years Podcast. Brooke is an important voice in telling the story of those who live with chronic illness. She has profound wisdom to share about the dynamics of personhood for chronically ill persons and how to se…

Reflections | Race: The Bypassed and The Bypassing Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram Follow Creek: @_creekmore Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm…

In this episode, we interview Dr. Deborah Egerton (Dr. E). Dr. E is a Diversity, Equity, & Anti-racism Specialist, Author, Executive Coach, Keynote Speaker, and Culture Transformation & Leadership Development Expert. Dr. E. brings all kinds of brilliance and new insights on the enneagram [1:40] When’s the last time Dr. E’s had a good belly laugh? […

In this episode, we continue our series on race and the enneagram and interview Chichi Agorom, author of the brilliant book, The Enneagram for Black Liberation. [0:45] What’s energizing Chichi right now? [3:00] The importance of considering the collective, not just the individual, when using the enneagram [7:35] A bit about Chichi’s Nigerian backgr…

In this episode, we interview consultant, author, and enneagram teacher Danielle Fanfair. Danielle is full of wisdom and possesses a fierce compassion in exploring some of the more challenging aspects of race and personality. [1:15] A bit about Danielle’s enneagram certification program and why she developed it. [8:45] The gaps Danielle seeks to fi…

In this episode, we interview Jessica Dickson. Jessica is an enneagram teacher and host of the Antiracist Enneagram Podcast. Jessica’s wisdom on socialization and its impact on the enneagram is profound. Enjoy! 2:35 A bit about Jessica’s work with clients 3:30 A bit about Jessica’s podcast: The Antiracist Enneagram Podcast 6:30 Coco, Encanto, and b…

Reflections | Culture & the Enneagram Today we’re debriefing our last two episodes on the overlays of culture and the enneagram, sharing what we learned, and setting up what’s coming next in season 4! 0:40 Why we aren’t a morning show 2:33 What surprised us about our conversations with Maria Jose and Chin Ai. 8:47 Contemplating the interplay betwee…

In this interview, we interview enneagram teacher Chin Ai Oh. Chin Ai lives and words in Malaysia and has a lot of wisdom to share on expanding our cultural fluency when using the enneagram. 2:00 Who is Chin Ai? 4:00 The last time Chin Ai ate Durian. 6:00 Chin Ai’s enneagram origin story 10:45 How Chin Ai integrates the enneagram into her career wo…

Maria Jose Munita - @mjmunita mjmunita.com Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram Follow Creek: @_creekmore Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm…

In this conversational episode, Abram, Creek, and Lindsey discuss the prototype, archetype, and stereotype expressions of personality, and how it connects to our Season 4 theme: dynamics of personhood. 12:45 Prototype - What comes to mind, what we mean 14:10 Archetype - What comes to mind, what we mean 17:45 Stereotype - What we mean & how it harms…

Season Four is here, friends! We are so excited to share these beautiful, vulnerable, and inspiring conversations with you. This season is tapping into something really special in our hearts, challenging us to grow profoundly. We hope you love this season as much as we do. Thanks for coming along with us! Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram …

Season Four is here, friends! We are so excited to share these beautiful, vulnerable, and inspiring conversations with you. This season is tapping into something really special in our hearts, challenging us to grow profoundly. Here's a teaser to get you hyped about what's in store! We hope you love this season as much as we do.Thanks for coming alo…

Connect with Scott! Scott's Instagram Sway Leadership Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.” — Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic Follow Drew: @ty…

Quotes to Uncover the Layers (Part 2) Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.” — Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram…

Bonus: Quotes to Uncover the Layers [Part 1] In this bonus episode of Fathoms, Lindsey & the Seths talk about Abram’s recent Instagram series [@IntegratedEnneagram] on quotes for each type to uncover the layers of our personality. Abram shares the quote and then the hosts share how that quote resonates with their own type structures. They hosts als…

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In this bonus episode of Fathoms, we talked to the creators of the innovative enneagram resource, “Enneaflip,” Scott Allender & Ashlee Sikorski. Scott and Ashlee together form Sway Leadership, a leadership development and emotional intelligence consulting firm. 1:05 Who are Ashlee [Type 4] and Scott [Type 3]? 6:00 How did Ashlee and Scott invite th…

Merry Christmas from the Fathoms hosts (and Abram’s 5 month old son “Bear)! In this bonus episode we talk about all things Christmas. 2:50 When does Christmas start? 5:00 Our holiday traditions 8:55 The things that get into the spirit of Christmas. 11:00 Our fond childhood Christmas memories 16:15 Christmas and grief/pain 20:40 We finally talk abou…

In this episode we’re excited to welcome back enneagram and addiction expert Michael Naylor to talk about his recent book: The Alchemy of the Enneagram in Transforming Addiction 2:15 The hardest part of writing the book. 5:00 Michael’s intended audience(s) for the book. 8:15 How the enneagram offers additional insight into addiction. 12:30 Why he c…

Today's episode is an interview we had with Christa Hardin of the Enneagram and Marriage podcast. This is prior to Lindsey joining us but we still thought you would enjoy this conversation about the seasons we find ourselves in and our own personal practices to help cultivate our own growth. — Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner …

We’re hard at work on Season 4. Thanks for your patience. In the meantime, enjoy this bonus episode introducing and getting to know our new co-host Lindsey Marks! Surprise! 2:45 - Lindsey’s enneagram story 6:30 - Lindsey’s enneagram training and work 7:30 - Lindsey’s personal growth “aha” moment 11:50 - What makes Lindsey sad 18:20 - What Lindsey b…

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Today we team up with the guys at the Art of Growth podcast, Jim Zartman and Joel Hubbard. Jim and Joel are trained in the Narrative Tradition of the enneagram and do some excellent enneagram work. We talked to them about their own stories and how the enneagram has helped them make sense of them. Our season theme of "story" plays a big role in how …

We are hard at work crafting the final few episodes of season 3 and wanted to highlight this wonderful episode we did back in the beginning of season 1. If you listen carefully, you'll pick up the elements of story we've been mentioning throughout the season. Knowing your story. Knowing what stories to drop and Understanding the stories of others. …

In this episode of Fathoms, we [Abram and Drew] are entirely and utterly Creekless but soldier on anyway to talk about the 9 Basic Propositions of the enneagram. These basic propositions, developed by the late Dr. David Daniels, provide a wealth of insight into the stories we try to live out from our character structure. 2:20 What is a "basic propo…

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In this episode, Creek and Drew discuss how to handle the knowledge or the prediction when you know or encounter someone who is mistyped. How should one handle it? 01:33 Humility goes a long way 03:05 Start with the instincts 06:21 Being observative and compassionate with the person you’re interacting with 10:58 Examples with Russ Hudson and Nhien …

We’re all back together and today we’re talking with enneagram teacher Renee Rosario. Renee leads with Type 2 and is a core faculty member of The Narrative Tradition. Renee gives a winsome exploration of the heart and vision of the narrative approach, and provides some profound insight on the somatic insights of our stories. 3:35 A little bit about…

We want your questions! We are in the process of wrapping up this season and per usual we will be doing a Q & A for our season finale. It's one of our favorite episodes to do and we want to hear from you! linktr.ee/fathoms.enneagram In the meantime, as we prepare the remainder of the episodes for this season, we wanted to highlight a few other podc…

Fathom 15 | Can you change your number? In this short episode, the Seths considered an often asked question (while Drew was on vacation): Can you change your enneagram number? 0:40 The Seths attack Drew’s character behind his back. Lame. 2:00 Can we change our enneagram type? 4:00 “We’re not as mushy . . .” 7:00 If we could change our number, shoul…

Today, Enneagram teacher and executive coach Mario Sikora returns to speak with us. Mario is the author of ​​Awareness to Action: The Enneagram, Emotional Intelligence, and Change and co-host of the Enneagram in a Movie podcast. Mario shares his insight on rewriting our narrative and how to take action to work on the clay that is our brain. 1:46 Th…

The Seths spend some time talking with our friend TJ Dawe [Type 4]. TJ is a writer, performer, director, and instructor. T.J. tells stories on stage and incorporates the enneagram into his work, helping others tell their stories on stage. Given our season’s theme of “story,” T.J. has some profound and winsome insight to help us tell our own stories…

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Now that we’re well into Season 3 of this show, we wanted to have a conversation about our podcast. 1:00 Our choice to include a wide array of enneagram voices 3:05 How the theme of story impacts the way we welcome guests to the show 8:30 The boundaries we keep 9:35 James P. Carse - Finite and Infinite Games 13:25 *Knowing* the enneagram vs. the pr…

Today we get to spend some time with Ian Morgan Cron. You probably recognize Ian as co-author of The Road Back to You or host of the Typology podcast. We talk about his new book, The Story of You, the implications of the enneagram becoming “popular” and much more. 4:00 What led Ian to move to Nashville [aka his “punk move”] 6:45 Ian’s enneagram ori…

Today we’re joined by our good friend and returning guest, Lee Fields. Lee is a kind and brilliant soul, and helped us facilitate a fascinating conversation on the stories we live in the framework of fiction, memoir, and non-fiction. 2:20 Creek gives us all a pumpkin spiced latte update! 5:00 Lee on how temperament and personality develop the stori…