At Last She Said It is a podcast that seeks to amplify and explore a variety of voices, stories, ideas and experiences of Mormon women.
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Connecting members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints with certified coaches who have all the tools to help you live a life full of peace, love, fun, and progress. Each episode features different coaches listed on the Latter-day LIfe Coach Directory. Don't miss an episode!
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Finding the truth of Jesus Christ amidst rumors, myths, and incorrect definitions.
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Ex-Mormon siblings Brother Dan and Sister Lisa discuss Mormonism, LDS culture, religiosity, atheism, mortality, personal growth & the examined life.
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In this episode, Heather is joined by coach Jackie Swainson. In their conversation they talk about the role of change in our lives. Jackie shares her insights on how change is not about losing oneself but becoming more aligned with our true potential. They discuss the power of choosing change rather than being forced into it and how this choice lea…
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Episode 197: Season 8 | That's a Wrap!
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As a finale to this season of conversations about women’s spirituality, in Episode 197 Susan and Cynthia revisit some ideas that stood out to them, discuss personal takeaways, and chat about what’s on each of their minds now.Por Cynthia Winward, Susan Hinckley
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In this episode, we dive into the powerful effects of self-confidence, compassion, and love on personal growth. Coach Tami Schwendiman shares her "Loving Forward" practice, where writing daily love letters fosters deeper connections and sparks creativity. By focusing on love and compassion, we align ourselves in co-creating with our Heavenly Parent…
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Episode 196: What About Ritual? | A Conversation with Selina Forsyth
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“For me, broadening my thinking about ritual has given me more freedom to bring my whole self and my creativity to my spiritual life, as well as meet my unique and evolving spiritual needs,” explains Selina Forsyth, who joins Cynthia and Susan to discuss ritual in the lives of Latter-day Saint women. What about when the rituals provided by our reli…
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Today on the podcast, we have Coach Camille Scow discussing a topic that affects many - healing from a spouse's pornography use. Join us as Camille shares valuable insights on setting healthy boundaries and focusing on healing for both partners. If you or someone you know could benefit from this discussion, please listen to this episode and then re…
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Every Latter-day Saint woman’s walk is unique. Cynthia and Susan are joined in Episode 195 by Candice Clark, who shares a glimpse of her personal path and some valuable insights she’s picked up along the way. She reminds us, “As a mother raised in the Church, one thing I’m grateful to have finally learned is that my desires matter. They don’t matte…
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Episode 194: Mental Health, Spirituality, and Religion, Oh My! | A Conversation with C.A. Larson
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“If one is religious but not spiritual, it will not enhance mental health,” says therapist C.A. Larson. In Episode 194, C.A. joins Susan and Cynthia for a conversation at the intersection of religion and spirituality. What are the differences between the two? How do they function together, and separately? And what influence might each one have on o…
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Life is busy and we are constantly bombarded with things we should be doing. This constant need to be doing puts us into a state of always being stressed. When we are stressed we often feel stretched thin, that our life is out of control, and that we are not fulfilling the things that matter to us. Coach Kara Kaufman is on the podcast today talking…
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Episode 193: What About Blessings, Part 3 | Things That Would Be Nice If They Were True
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Bad things happen to good people—good works cannot protect us from the natural consequences of being human in an imperfect world. But in a church where the narrative often draws connections between worthiness and blessings, it can be hard to avoid internalizing the idea that we’re special and can achieve control by doing the right things. “How do I…
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Boundaries are essential for any relationship to be healthy and successful but when you are dealing with a child that is a drug addict, they can be the difference between being able to show up in a healthy way versus creating more harm for your child. Coach Susan Achziger is on the podcast today talking about the essential elements of boundaries wi…
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Episode 192: Embracing Your Journey | A Conversation with Anne Pimentel
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“We can do things a little differently and still be okay,” says Anne Pimentel. She’s a natural—but also intentional—space-maker, devoted to the idea that one can be a “good member” of the Church without fitting the mold. In Episode 192 Anne joins Susan and Cynthia for a conversation about how she learned and has internalized this lesson for herself…
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Today on the podcast is a type of coach we have never had before but who brings her gift of energy work to the coaching world. Coach Maren Rasmussen is a coach who uses her gift of seeing the energy that people have around them to help bring awareness and healing to their lives. Many can be leery of energy work but we know that after listening to M…
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Episode 191: What About Grief? | A Conversation with Pam Heggie
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“My faith life really begins with death,” explains Pam Heggie. “Meaning, the real, genuine experiences of my life that molded me, shaped me and taught me what love and empathy really are, began with deaths. Four (so far) to be exact. Five if you count my own.” In Episode 191, Pam joins Susan and Cynthia to discuss lessons she’s learned at the inter…
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Our goal as parents is to raise children that can go out into the world and be successful, independent, and self-sufficient adults. But in order for this to happen, parents need to allow their children to learn the vital skill of self-advocating when they are still living at home. Coach Daelene Byam is on the podcast talking about how parents can t…
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Bonus Episode 190 contains all the voicemails we couldn’t squeeze into the previous episode's discussion exploring unique complexities of being a Sister missionary for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.Por Cynthia Winward, Susan Hinckley
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Episode 189: What About Sister Missionaries?
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In Episode 189, ALSSI team member and returned missionary Katie joins Cynthia and Susan for a dive into listener voicemails about women’s experiences as sister missionaries for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. From the pressures around the decision to serve to the daily realities of mission life, there’s plenty to unpack. The rigors…
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We all want connection in our marriage but in order to achieve great connection it takes a significant amount of work from both partners. Coach Glenn Lovelace is sharing some key elements that every couple should include in their relationship pyramid as they strive for greater connection. From there, each couple is able to add what they value and f…
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“If you lift up a prism, depending on how you slightly turn it, the light will hit different facets, refracting and coming out in different ways. That's how I like to approach the scriptures,” explains Cynthia, “Turning them just ever so slightly to see what different meanings there could be.” In Episode 188, she turns her personal prism on the sto…
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We often define a relationship as a connection between two people but Coach Michele Gardemann is talking today about how we have relationships with everything around us and it is in the recognition of the relationship we have with all things that we become more like our Heavenly Parents. Michele emphasizes that it is us, through our thoughts about …
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“Spiritual stretching ... makes you stronger, gives you more balance, and keeps you stable. It took me years to understand that my questions and seeking that stretch me, and are really difficult to wrestle with, are healthy and completely in line with our theology. [...] We need more stretchy saints.” Amy Watkins Jensen has plenty of hard-earned wi…
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We all feel pain but when you are single and in the Church your pain can come from different areas. One major source can be the fact that you are angry at God because things haven’t turned out the way you were told they would or the way you expected. Coach Melanie Yates is talking on the podcast today about how to use that pain and anger to propel …
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Episode 186: What Happened to Community? | A Conversation with Candice Wendt
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“Life as a member offers relatively little social time or enjoyment,” writes Candice Wendt. “Being in the ward is mostly about passive listening and being told to follow leaders and go to the temple. [...] You’re more likely to get asked to clean our very dirty building than be asked to dinner." In episode 186, Candice joins Susan and Cynthia for a…
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We live in a world that is fast paced and has rules as to how things should operate and what is and isn’t acceptable. If you are neurotypical you can easily fit into this world, but if you are neurodivergent, fitting in can be difficult. The same holds true for inside the Church. We have certain ways of operating and how we like to do things. Those…
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Episode 185: Does That Scripture Mean What You Think it Means? | A Dance with the Parable of the Talents
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Rob Bell describes interacting with scripture like this: there’s the black ink (what’s written on the page), then there’s the white space around it (where we dance with what’s written). In Episode 185, Susan and Cynthia take on what Latter-day Saints commonly call the Parable of the Talents, from Matthew 25. It’s a conversation about grace out of h…
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Goals are great things to set but all too often we let our goals be another area that we beat ourselves up and think we aren’t good enough because we aren’t accomplishing the goals fast enough or well enough. Coach Amber Winn has come up with a term she calls “Micro Focused Moments” where she helps her clients look for the small wins and accomplish…
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Many of us make temple covenants as young adults. Are we expected to have the same perspectives and priorities at 80 that we had at 18? In a church that emphasizes concepts like “staying on the covenant path” and “enduring to the end,” it can be hard to know how to navigate when our life experiences invite us to grow in new directions. In Episode 1…
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In the last few years have you noticed a large number of LDS women starting their own businesses? Why do you think this has been happening? Coach Bonnie Wiscombe believes that it is the result of so many of them feeling a call from God to do so and use them to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ through their business endeavors. Women are pulled in m…
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We asked, you answered! Of all emotions, anger might be the least acceptable for Latter-day Saint women. Many of us are not comfortable being around it, expressing it, talking about it, or even feeling it. But when we choose silence over healthy dialogue, what’s the toll on our physical, emotional, and spiritual well-being? In Episode 183, Cynthia …
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Anyone who has ever had to get up in front of a group either for a performance or to give a talk at church, has felt the nerves that inevitably come up. Coach Shelly Townsend coaches performers not to help them to eliminate their nerves but to help them learn how to manage them. Whether you are a seasoned performer or just someone sharing with othe…
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Episode 182: The Harder the Better | A Conversation with Valerie Hamaker
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Does devotion always require walking uphill? What’s the difference between good-hard and bad-hard? Do some Church members see the difficulty of a thing as a measure of the righteousness it requires? Has “more suffering and sacrifice” somehow come to mean “higher and holier” in the LDS narrative? In Episode 182, Valerie Hamaker of Latter-day Struggl…
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There is so much excitement and anticipation leading up to someone leaving and going on a mission. There is a training center to help missionaries adjust to missionary life, but what about when they come home? Where is the training center for helping them assimilate back into everyday life? Coach Brianna Stewart is on the podcast today talking abou…
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Episode 181: What About the Sacrament?
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As the centerpiece of Sunday worship and an ordinance pointing directly to Jesus Christ, the sacrament holds deep meaning for many Latter-day Saints. In Episode 181, Cynthia and Susan turn their grace-peddling to a conversation about the sacrament. What matters more: worthiness, or willingness? When did this simple remembrance of Jesus become about…
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We all want to be seen and valued for who we are, what we want, and the things we need. In order for that to happen in any relationship, compromise must give way to collaboration. Coach Tanya Hale is back on the podcast today teaching some great ways to engage in equal and collaborative relationships so that each person gets what they want and need…
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Episode 180: Embracing Your Journey | A Conversation with Mary Cox
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Mary once put a vinyl motto above her kitchen door that read, “That’s What We Do!” It was a 4-word description of her life as a Latter-day Saint woman. For many years, she and her husband were “the couple who could get it done” at church. She describes looking back with grace for that younger self: “She was doing the best she could with what she kn…
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Every mother wants to have a connection with their son and that pull to be connected often seems to increase as they get older and are closer to leaving the nest. Coach Heidi Allsop is a mom to five boys and coaches other moms of boys in helping them build stronger connections with their sons as well as prepare their sons to go out into the real wo…
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Episode 179: Am I Spiritual?
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What is spirituality? Am I doing it right? What does it look or feel like? Who decides? Episode 179 rounds out the intro of our theme with an exploration of James Finley’s idea: “The greatest teacher of God’s presence in our life is our life.” Cynthia and Susan discuss the difference between communication and communion, finding points of connection…
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No one likes to get injured but when the injury is to your brain it can be a lot scarier and have a lot more unknowns. As you will hear coach Bethany Lewis is passionate about helping those who have suffered from a concussion because she is aware that there are a lot of unknowns and people often don’t get the care they need to heal properly. This i…
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Episode 178: Women's Spirituality | A Conversation with Brittney Hartley
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Like flowers in the cracks of a sidewalk, women’s spirituality has had to work its way around and through thousands of years of religious beliefs and practices established and maintained by and for men. “I have stopped trying to make my life look spiritually acceptable to men. Men have very specific criteria for what spirituality is, based on the r…
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Divorce is never easy and when a spouse has not lived up to commitments and promises that were expectations going into the marriage, the loss can be even more profound. Coach Jenn Zingmark is on the podcast today discussing what she has learned having gone through a divorce and most importantly how her life has been richly blessed post divorce by t…
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Sister Lisa shares the story and meaning of her first tattoo, an update on her feelings around her grad school experience, and her thoughts on reading ‘The Testaments’ by Margaret Atwood. The siblings then discuss recent thoughts around death and the treatment of remains, and their potential preferences for their own bodies. — The Common Mormon: Pa…
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Episode 177: Going Off-Brand
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“There is room to honor and hold space for the precious and the meaningful even as we evolve in our beliefs, our homes, and our lives. It’s okay to bring some things with you.” These wise words from writer Sarah Bessey help shape the conversation of this Season 8 opener. Everyone who’s moved knows it can be hard to decide what to toss and what to k…
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We all know our spirits came to earth to inhabit a body but the union of those two is often one that creates dissonance and opposition since they have different roles to play. But as coach Michelle Keil will share, it is when we can reconcile the body and the spirit and help them both function well is when we can progress and move forward in the fa…
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In this short bonus episode, Susan and Cynthia look ahead to the upcoming season of podcast conversations. Season 8 will center on Latter-day Saint women digging and drawing from our individual spiritual wells. Hope you’ll join us!Por Cynthia Winward, Susan Hinckley
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While being a parent to any child brings its own unique challenges and struggles, parenting styles often vary based on the gender of a child. Boys need to be parented differently than girls. Coach Alicia Davis is a mom to four boys of her own and loves helping moms of boys learn how to better parent their sons. In today’s episode Alicia is talking …
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Episode 175 (Bonus): Revisiting When Women Are The Problem
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In this bonus episode, Cynthia and Susan revisit part of an earlier discussion exploring the idea of Latter-day Saint women’s complicity in our own marginalization. Recent events have once again highlighted ways women may be the biggest obstacle to achieving greater parity of roles within the organization. It’s still an itchy topic with no easy ans…
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We are amazing individuals capable of so much and yet we are often living below are privileges when we do not actively seek and bring God into our lives and allow Him to make so much more of them then we ever could on our own. Coach Jill Cleaver loves God and wants other women to come to have a greater connection with Him. One way we do this is by …
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The coaching tools are something that many women have caught onto and adopted into their lives. They’ve seen amazing results by changing the way they think about the circumstances they come across. But what about their husbands? Coach Glenn Lovelace is on the podcast because he sees that while the women are changing, the men in their lives need to …
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On March 17, 2024 the Church broadcast a Worldwide Relief Society Devotional featuring remarks from the RS General Presidency and President Nelson. In this bonus episode, Cynthia and Susan discuss some of the messages delivered and the social media outpouring from Latter-day Saint women in response.Por Cynthia Winward, Susan Hinckley
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Becoming a parent is daunting as is, but when you become a parent to children that are not biologically yours and come with previous family history, the road will have different and sometimes more difficult ups and downs in the parenting journey. Coach Bonnie Butler is on the podcast today talking about her journey adopting six siblings, how it wen…
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