REBROADCAST: Changing the Culture of Racism is a Long Game, with Janese Murray

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To commemorate Juneteenth, we are rebroadcasting an episode that originally aired in December of 2021.

In this episode Danielle and Kristy talk with Janese Murray, a thought leader in the field of diversity and inclusion, about race in the United States. We touch on critical race theory; what it is, what it isn’t, and what you can do about it. We talk about why laws are important but not enough, and how personal stories can make big impacts in the hearts and minds of individuals. The outlook is optimistic, some days… but culture change is a long game and it can be tough to know if it's going well. Ironically, resistance can be a signal that we're on the right track.

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