Who Owns AI's Brainchildren?

The Meat Puppets Podcast

Strap in creatives, In this episode, the Meat Puppets wrestle with AI's potential creative supremacy and the existential threat it poses to analog innovators. Will AI annihilate copyright and render human creativity obsolete?

Or can carbon-based lifeforms somehow co-create with their artificially intelligent overlords? Get ready for a thought-provoking yet lighthearted exploration of humanity's uncertain future in the rise of the creative machines.

Join hosts and co-founders Martin Riley and Paul Billington as they boldly venture into the Wild West world of AI-generated content.

With only their wit and a few bytes of machine learning code, these intrepid pod-pals stake their claim in podcasting's new digital frontier.

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Show Notes & Links

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The Dust Junkys Living in the Pocket of a Drug Queen - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da6ltT_uSUQ

Bon Jovi - Queen of New Orleans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMDXJ1Q1jUU

Chorus - listen for the sample! (although its nat a sample)

https://youtu.be/Da6ltT_uSUQ?si=w2b_X5tMeX4ptCo5&t=41

Topics covered:

• Definition and history of copyright/intellectual property law
• How copyright controls reproduction and earns royalties for creators
• Copyright's origins in the book printing press and music recording eras
• Importance of copyright in music, film, TV and other creative industries
• Digital disruption of copyright - from sampling lawsuits to internet piracy
• New revenue models like streaming subscriptions arising alongside copyright chaos
• Principle of fair use that permits unlicensed excerpts for commentary
• Today's threat of AI generative art models like Midjourney, DALL-E and Runway
• How models are trained on vast databases of copyrighted works from the internet
• Uncertainty around legal ownership of AI art based on copyrighted source material
• Current stance that prompt authors own their AI creations, not the models' creators
• Adobe's controversial promise to protect AI art made with their tools from lawsuits
• Case study of musicians unknowingly producing similar songs - inspiration vs plagiarism
• Example of Paul's band having samples blocked, jeopardising releases and revenue
• Rise of synthetic audio like voice cloning and AI composed music
• Copyright erosion's link to falling royalties; creative community's outrage
• Speculation on AI tools enabling copyright theft at scale versus expanding creativity
• Lack of legal precedent and regulation around emergent AI capabilities
• Repeated pivots between optimism and concern regarding AI's impact on copyright

Equipment Used

(Prices as of Aug 2023 - we don’t get any money from any of these links, we’re not associated in anyway, we’re just sharing what we use)

Rode PodMic USB - £199 https://rode.com/en/microphones/usb/podmic-usb

Any Phone, Computer or Tablet with USBC and wireless / mobile internet £200 upwards

Sennheiser HD 25 Headphone £120 (Although any will do really - we’re just a bit snobby) - https://en-uk.sennheiser.com/on-ear-dj-headphone-hd25

Web Services used

Soundcloud £FREE - Currently on the free tier - https://soundcloud.com/

ChatGPT £FREE/20/month (although we’re using it less and less) https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt

Claude 2 £FREE https://claude.ai/

Cleanfeed £FREE/25/month (Although free tier would be fine) https://cleanfeed.net/

Google Apps £FREE/5/Month/per user https://workspace.google.com/

Software Tools Used

DeScript £FREE/20/Month (Free would be fine) https://www.descript.com/

Davinci Resolve 18.5 £FREE/245 for studio version (Although we’re not really using any more) https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/davinciresolve/studio

Adobe Media Encoder £15/Month but you don’t really need it

Relevant links:

• https://www.historyofcopyright.org/ History of copyright
• https://www.midjourney.com/home/ - Midjourney AI art generator
• https://openai.com/dall-e-2 - DALL-E AI art generator
• https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography/discover/ai-generated-content.html - Adobe's AI content policies
• https://www.altered.ai/ - Altered AI voice generation
• https://elevenlabs.io/ - Eleven Labs AI voice generator
• https://www.anthropic.com/ - Anthropic Claude AI
• https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/ - ChatGPT AI
• https://about.fb.com/news/2023/08/audiocraft-generative-ai-for-music-and-audio/ - Meta's Audiocraft AI music generator
• https://www.similarweb.com/website/gettyimages.com/,overview - Getty Images stock site
• https://www.shutterstock.com/ - Shutterstock stock images/video
• https://www.spotify.com/ - Spotify streaming service
• https://www.ascap.com/help/career-development/getting-paid - ASCAP music royalties guide
• https://www.gov.uk/copyright - UK copyright
• https://www.youtube.com/ - YouTube video platform
• https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/permission-sampled-music-sample-clearance-30165.html

Disclaimer

The Meat Puppets podcast is for entertainment purposes only. Hosts Martin Riley and Paul Billington are experienced media professionals but they are not experts in law, AI or any topics discussed on the show. Listeners should not construe their personal opinions or banter as professional legal advice. All business decisions should be made based on your own independent research and assessment of risks. While delivered with good humour, the hosts make no guarantees about accuracy of any content in this podcast. Listen at your own discretion!

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