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Q&A and Closing Statement

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This is Q&A and Cooper's closing statement at an eschatology forum last October in O'Fallon Missouri.

Download as MP3

34 episodios

#Religion #Prewrath #Pre #Wrath #End #Prophecy #Theology #Rapture #Charles Cooper #Christianity #Once Upon a Time

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Contend for the Faith that Was Once for All Delivered to the Saints

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Roger Best exhorts us from the book of Jude to live holy in these godless days. This is a session from the 2009 2nd Annual Prewrath Conference in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. Download as MP3

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Corrie's Clues Thoughts on Tribulation from a European Perspective

hace 16 years

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Netherlands' Pastor Ton Verdam gives a moving message on stories and theology by Corrie ten Boom ( The Hiding Place ) and Brother Andrew ( God's Smuggler ). This is a session from the 2009 2nd Annual Prewrath Conference in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. I encourage everyone to listen to this entire message—it is highly instructive and edifying for the coming trials for all of us. Here is a PowerPoint Presentation that accompanies the message. Download as MP3…

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Faith is the Only Option During the Great Tribulation

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Cooper exhorts the believer that faith is the only option during the Great Tribulation. He also reveals a project he is working on: a spiritual training center in Florida. This is a session from the 2009 2nd Annual Prewrath Conference in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. Download as MP3

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Flight is Not an Option During the Great Tribulation

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Cooper examines the Biblical principles that the Church must apply during this awful time -- and flight is not one of them, unless you live in Jerusalem. This is a session from the 2009 2nd Annual Prewrath Conference in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. Download as MP3

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Fighting is Not an Option During the Great Tribulation

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This presentation will be challenging for those who believe that the way to survive the Great Tribulation is to fight. This will also be a reality check for many western believers, particularly those who have been taught an escapist theology. Cooper examines the Biblical principles that the Church must apply during this awful time -- and fighting is not one of them. This is a session from the 2009 2nd Annual Prewrath Conference in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. " There is coming a time when injustice is the order of the day -- and we will have no remedy. " - Charles Cooper Download as MP3…

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Israel and Jerusalem Today as it Pertains to Prophecy

hace 16 years

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This is a session from the 2009 2nd Annual Prewrath Conference in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. Roger Best, the "Prewrath Ambassador," gives a talk on Jerusalem and Israel today as it relates to prophecy. Download as MP3

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Biblical Calenders, 2 Thessalonians 2, and Danites

hace 16 years

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This is a session from the 2009 2nd Annual Prewrath Conference in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. Charles Cooper explicates Biblical Ancient Calenders such as the Egyptian, Jewish, and Western calenders as it pertains to prophetic chronology. He also expounds on 2 Thessalonians 2, as well as Danites returning to Israel recently! Download as MP3…

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Q&A and Closing Statement

hace 16 years

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This is Q&A and Cooper's closing statement at an eschatology forum last October in O'Fallon Missouri. Download as MP3

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Cooper Tells the Story of His Journey From Pretribulationism to Prewrath

hace 16 years

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Charles Cooper tells about his journey to the prewrath position. He also explains how the contradictions in the pretribulational system prompted him to examine Scripture more closely on the rapture question. This presentation was given last October in O'Fallon Missouri at an eschatology forum. Download as MP3…

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What Did the Early Church Fathers Teach on the Timing of the Second Coming?

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This presentation on what the early church taught was given last October in O'Fallon Missouri at an eschatology forum. There are three speakers who had twenty minutes each to give their case: Steve Gregg (Preterist), Charles Cooper (Prewrath), Thomas Ice (Pretribulational). I have included Steve Gregg's presentation because I want you to hear what a preterist case sounds like. It goes something like this: "Ok, I grudgingly admit that preterism was never taught in the first three hundred years by a Church Father. But who knows!...maybe one day someone may stumble upon in the sands of Egypt an early Church document with preterist teachings, so therefore we can never be too sure what the early Church taught on this subject." What Gregg also does is he invokes sparse preterist writings from the Church Fathers from AD 300-700 to cast doubt on what the early Church taught, as if they have the same weight as futurist writings from the first and second generations of the Church! In the second presentation, Cooper demonstrates that the early Church clearly taught that the Church would encounter the Antichrist's Great Tribulation. Cooper even cites in support the authoritative church historian Larry V. Crutchfield, who, himself is a pretribulationalist! In the third presentation, Ice focuses on the premillennial issue. Prewrath is premillennial as well so we can agree with Ice's points on that issue. However, Ice makes a false claim by asserting that the early Church Fathers believed in imminency. They certainly did not believe in imminency in the pretribulational sense that the Church would be raptured before the Antichrist's Great Tribulation. And some believed that the Church would be raptured soon because they thought that they were in the midst of the Great Tribulation! So Ice's statements are misleading and incorrect. The only early citation that Ice attempts to produce is a statement from The Shepherd of Hermas, in which he reads his pretribulational system into this ancient document. He (selectively) cites a statement from Vision 4 that says that if someone has enough faith they can escape a great tribulation. What Ice does is anachronistically reads "escape" as a rapture. But there is nothing in the text that suggests a rapture. In fact, the "escape" in that context indicates a physical escape leaving the person on earth (see Vision 4:2). Nor does Hermas place the Return of Christ before the Great Tribulation. Further, Hermas actually makes statements of enduring the Great Tribulation: " Blessed are those of you who patiently endure the coming great tribulation and who will not deny their life ." (Vision 2:2) " Therefore those who endure and pass through the flames will be purified by them...The white part is the age to come, in which God's elect will live because those chosen by God for eternal life will be spotless and pure...You have also the foreshadowing of the great tribulation that is coming " (Vision 4:3) It should also be mentioned that like so many of the other early Church Fathers' exposition of Scripture, this document instead is not didactic intending to interpret what the Bible teaches on the Second Coming -- it is part of a vision . The fact that this is the only citation that Ice can produce within the first four hundred years of Church History is very telling. Ice also invokes a later Church document called Pseudo-Ephraem and purports that there are pretrib statements. This has been thoroughly refuted in this Parousia Newsletter. In summary, the term "Prewrath" is new, but its essential teaching goes back to the early Church writers, contra preterism, pretribulationism, and amillennialism. Download as MP3…

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The Millennium

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Charles Cooper talks about the Millennium. This presentation was given last October in O'Fallon Missouri at an eschatology forum. Download as MP3

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The Final Judgments

hace 16 years

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Charles Cooper explicates the doctrine of the final eschatological judgments. Amillennialists wrongly ignore specific aspects of the final judgment and end up focusing on generalities. This presentation was given last October in O'Fallon Missouri at an eschatology forum. Download as MP3

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A Composite of the Rapture

hace 16 years

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Charles Cooper builds a composite of the rapture by bringing relevant Biblical texts together. This presentation was given last October in O'Fallon Missouri at an eschatology forum. Download as MP3

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The Second Parousia of Our Lord

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Charles Cooper explains in this lecture the vital importance of understanding the Greek term parousia , which underlies our English term for the "Second Coming ." This presentation was given last October in O'Fallon Missouri at an Eschatology forum. For an extensive article that explains this term, click here . Also, Cooper unpacks the term parousia in chapter three of his book, God's Elect and the Great Tribulation: An Interpretation of Matthew 24:1-31 and Daniel 9 . Download as MP3…

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The Great Tribulation - It is Not the "Day of the Lord"

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Charles Cooper explains the starting point, nature, and cutting off point of the Great Tribulation. This event that is associated with Antichrist's persecution against the Church is not to be confused with the event of the Day of the Lord's wrath, which follows after the Great Tribulation. This presentation was given last October in O'Fallon Missouri at an Eschatology forum. Download as MP3…

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Daniel 9:24-27 - Daniel's 70 Weeks

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Last October in O'Fallon Missouri, Charles Cooper was asked to participate in an Eschatology forum representing the Prewrath position. Thomas Ice represented the Pretribulational view, and Steve Gregg the Preterist position. There were about ten topics that were discussed and each position was allotted 15 minutes each to explicate their position on the topic at hand. Thanks to Brian Turner of Oil Station Ministries for organizing the event and providing us the audio. The format was a positive presentation. That is, there would be no debate or critiquing the other respective positions. It would just be presentations . Cooper and myself were pushing hard for a dynamic interaction format instead. We did not want merely monologues, but dialogues since we are convinced that the locus of truth and accountability is found in interaction between the proponents to prevent theological traditions from "talking past each other." My experience is that the audience is mostly benefited from dialogues since it often brings out more substantive discussions. It's orderly, and that interaction often is very profitable for the audience to enjoy more meaningful discussion. And it's Biblical! " The first to state his case seems right, until his opponent begins to cross-examine him ." Proverbs 18:17 Nevertheless, even though we did not get the interaction level that we desired, Cooper decided to participate since we know that in the long run through the audio that is provided many people who were not in attendance will hear his presentations. Also, the organizer has intimated to me that he is amendable for future opportunities of debate and other mediums of meaningful interaction that we desire. So I will post Cooper's presentations over the course of time (10 topics, 15 minutes each), and we will utilize Thomas Ice and Steve Gregg's presentations for future radio programs to respond and interact with their own segments. In the first session, Cooper prefaces a couple of remarks about interpretive principles and the structural framework of the book of Revelation. Then most of his time is spent explicating Daniel 9:24-27. For Cooper's detailed discussion and advanced new research on this locus classicus , he devotes the last third of his book: God's Elect and the Great Tribulation: An Interpretation of Matthew 24:1-31 and Daniel 9. Download as MP3…

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Matthew's Pattern Fulfillment, and Key Metaphors in the Olivet Discourse

hace 16 years

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At the 2008 Orlando Prewrath Conference, Charles Cooper gave a lecture on Matthew's interpretive employment of "Pattern Fulfillment." Cooper also explains that each of the gospel writers contain key metaphors that serve to illuminate Jesus' teaching of his Return. Download as MP3

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"Biblical Prophecy in the News" - Soberness, not Sensationalism

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At the 2008 Prewrath Conference in Orlando, Cooper exhorts the believer not to read so much of the news back into Biblical prophecy. Then he explains three conditions that should exist before Christ's Return. Download as MP3

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Matthew's Purpose in Matthew 24 Critique Against Preterism and Pretribulationsim

hace 16 years

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At the 2008 Prewrath Conference in Orlando, Charles Cooper explicated Matthew's purpose in his account of the Olivet Discourse found in Matthew 24, distinguishing it from Mark and Luke's account and purpose. Matthew 24 is applicable to the Church, contra Preterism and Pretribulationism. Preterists commit a fundamental fallacy of assuming that the question and purpose in Mark and Luke's version of the Olivet Discourse is the same as that in Matthew's, thus flattening the respective purposes for each. But Matthew is not concerned with the question asked in Mark and Luke's account, but rather he takes the teaching of Jesus and expands on it to serve a larger (eschatological) purpose -- this important point is repeatedly missed by preterists. With any discussion or debate with a preterist, this point is fundamental and primary to all other subsequent discussions. Download as MP3…

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The Early History of Prewrath - Part 2

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Roger Best continues to tell the story of the early history of Prewrath and its international reach. This audio is from the 2008 Prewrath Conference. Download as MP3

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The Early History of Prewrath - Part 1

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Roger Best tells the story of the early history of Prewrath. This audio is from the 2008 Prewrath Conference. Download as MP3

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The Future of Prewrath Resource Institute

hace 16 years

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Charles Cooper describes his experience teaching at Moody Bible Institute and embracing the Prewrath rapture position while he was there. The remaining speech was about the future plans of the Prewrath Resource Institute -- its visions, projects, and ministry. Thank you for those who have supported us this year even in tight economic times. We appreciate it greatly. Please keep us in your prayers that God will bless us in this next year. Download as MP3…

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Prewrath... 15 Years and Beyond - Rosenthal

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Marvin Rosenthal delivered the keynote address at the 2008 Prewrath Conference in Orlando in January, which was excellent. He tells his story of coming to the conviction of Prewrath from Pretribulationism, and where we have come in 15 years. In addition, Rosenthal gives an exhortation for the Church to get serious with the Biblical truth of possibly our generation facing the persecution of Antichrist. Towards the end, Rosenthal talks about an interesting saga of a Zondervan book on the rapture that was supposed to be published over a year ago! He finishes with noting that there has been believers throughout Church history who, though they never called it "Prewrath," nevertheless affirmed its fundamental teaching. Download as MP3…

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Opening Comments from the 2008 Orlando Prewrath Conference

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In the next few weeks I will be posting audio from this past year's conference on the Prewrath Radio Program here. Not all the audio is superior quality, and some of it did not pass muster particularly the Revelation and Thessalonian sessions; nevertheless, most of it is audible so we will be posting them in the ensuing weeks. The audio for the opening comments is the shortest of them all but we thought you may like it. Download as MP3…

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Election Cancels Any-Momentism!

hace 17 years

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We may debate the meaning of election, but the Bible does teach it. Revelation 7:9 indicates an innumerable universal multitude will be saved. This clearly makes pretribulational any-momentism impossible. Click here to listen to the program.

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More Scriptural Evidence for Imminence, Not!

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There are other passages that often make their way onto a list that supposedly supports pretribulational any-momentism. Yet, a closer look reveals that any-momentism is an inference drawn from these passages. Just as before, these passages do not support any-momentism. Listen, as I make my case. Click here to listen to the program.…

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Let's Check the Scriptures for Imminence!

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The idea that the Lord can return for His Bride at any-moment by their own admission is a core value of pretribulationism. One would think that such an important issue would have an explicit basis in the Scriptures. Let's examine the seven most often quoted passages that supposedly supports this belief to see whether this is the case. Click here to listen to the program.…

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Imminence: An Impossible Doctrine to Prove!

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The idea that the Lord can return for His Bride at any-moment is at the heart of pretribulationism. Yet, this theory cannot stand the test of biblical examination. John in Revelation 7:9 saw a number that no man could physically count. This one event proves the absolute impossibility of imminence. The Lord could not return until enough elect individuals were born to fill John's quota. Listen as I dismantle this position. Click here to listen to the program.…

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Legs To Stand On: An Update, Part 2

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Legs To Stand On: An Update, Part 1

hace 18 years

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In this episode of Prewrath Radio Online, we re-visit the basic foundations of the Prewrath position. As a synthetic amalgamation of pre-, mid-, and posttribulationism, the Prewrath position is the truth of the three free of contradictions with explicit scriptural support. Click here to listen to the program.…

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Damaged Foundations of Pretribulationism - Part 4 - Revelation 4-19.

hace 18 years

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In this episode of Prewrath Radio Online, we look at the final leg of what was once thought to be a strong support for a pretrib rapture in the book of Revelation. The absence of the term "church" in chapters 4-19 is a two-edged sword, pretribulationism has fallen on. Click here to listen to the program.…

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Damaged Foundations of Pretribulationism - Part 3 - Revelation 4:1

hace 18 years

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In this episode of Prewrath Radio Online, we examine implications of the loss of Revelation 4:1 as a support passage for a pretrib rapture. Pretribulationists are now admitting that this passage has nothing to do with a pretrib rapture. This is strike two! Click here to listen to the program.

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Damaged Foundations of Pretribulationism - Part 2 - Revelation 3:10

hace 18 years

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In this episode of Prewrath Radio Online, we examine implications of the loss of Revelation 3:10 as the determining passage for a pretrib rapture. Click here to listen to the program.

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Damaged Foundations of Pretribulationism - Part 1 - Revelation 3:10

hace 18 years