Coherence - Part 2

Christ Covenant Church

Coherent (def.): to be clear and consistent, logical and reasonable.

The accusations of our critics:

[See PREVIOUS SERMON (Coherence Part 1) for accusations 1-3]

4. Your requirement of faithful obedience to be a Christian is too difficult. We are totally broken and unable to live faithfully obedient lives to God. It is for this reason the message of salvation is faith in Christ not faithfulness to Christ. It is also the reason Jesus came to earth – to obey so we wouldn’t have to! The standard of obedience preached at your church is just making people into self-righteous Pharisees. God doesn’t expect nor require this level of commitment to get heaven.

Our biblically obedient and coherent response:

4.1. Though we are born depraved – or with a strong desire for sin (or to serve self over God and His commands), we still possess the ability to choose and do good – or obey His commands. If this were not true, then God would be unjust for condemning people to hell based on their deeds (ability establishes culpability) (Job 34:11; Psa 62:12; Jer 17:10, 21:14; 2Co 5:10; Rev 20:11-15).

4.2. God’s requirement of faithful obedience (not perfection) has never been too difficult – including for those under the OC (those w/o the indwelling Spirit, regeneration or propitiation) (Deu 28:1 w/30:11-14).

4.3. The message of salvation has always been both faith and faithfulness (to Christ). Faith itself is a pledge or personal promise to faithfulness to God over self or anything else (i.e., to live for or love God above anyone and anything else) (Gen 15:6 [w/Joh 8:56] w/Gen 17:1-8 [God confirming His promise and pledge to Abraham and the condition of that promise - Abraham’s former faith pledge to Him]; Exo 24:7-8 w/1Pe 1:1-2, 3:21). That our faith pledge mb followed by faithfulness for salvation to be secure is confirmed by James (Jam 2:14-26).

4.4. If Jesus did indeed come to earth to obey on our behalf (with the assumption that we could not do it ourselves), then this too incriminates/indicts God given His expectations of obedience and severe judgments against disobedience in the OT (e.g., most of the first generation died and went to hell because of their unfaithfulness – Heb 3:12-19 [v19, apistis = unfaithfulness, See Num 14:33 w/4:6-11]).

4.5. The Pharisees were self-righteous - or viewed themselves as righteous, but not for valid reasons. They claimed to keep (or be faithful) to God’s laws but were - in reality, hypocrites - not willing to exert the smallest amount of effort to obey God’s commands (Mat 23:1-4 w/ 28). Like Evangelicals, the Pharisees believed they were saved simply because of their faith and being a part of Abraham’s family. What they failed to accept is that God will remove from Abraham’s family all those who are unfaithful (Mat 3:1-10 w/Luk 7:30 [they did not believe they could be removed for unrepentance/unfaithfulness]; Joh 8:31-39; Rom 11:21-23).

4.6. If God doesn’t require this level of commitment to get to heaven, then why do those who fail to possess faithfulness end up apostate and in hell – i.e., under God’s eternal and unforgiving wrath (Mat 7:21-27; Gal 5:19-21; Eph 5:5-6; Heb 10:26-30)?

5. Your church places loyalty to Christ and His church above loyalty to biological family including one’s spouse, children, and parents. As a result, you divide families and even approve of divorce. God made the marriage and the family to be the most important institutions on the planet. God also commands that children respect their parents.

Our biblically obedient and coherent response:

5.1. Our choice to place loyalty to Christ and His church above loyalty to biological family – including one’s spouse, children, and parents has always been a condition of God’s (or Jesus’) covenant/salvation/eternal promises (Gen 12:1 w/2-3; Gen 22:1-2,3-18 w/Jam 2:21-22; Deu 6:4-5; Mar 12:29-30; Luk 14:25-35).

5.2. That loyalty to the church is how we express loyalty to Christ is confirmed by the facts: 1) the church is identified as the Body and Bride of Christ. Can a person sin against a man’s body or wife and not sin against the man himself? (Pro 6:27-35). 2) the church is the fullness of Christ on earth (Eph 1:22-23). In these two ways, Christ essentially made loyalty to Him synonymous with loving our covenant brothers and sisters. Hence why (Joh 13:34-35).

5.3. Hence the reason this was a major focus of John the Baptist and Jesus’ earthly ministry: to turn God’s people back to Him and His family over their human families as the first loyalty (Mal 4:6 w/Luk 1:17).

5.4. Hence the reason also Jesus predicted that many families would be divided over His message (Mat 10:34-39).

5.5. The only divorce we approve of are those sanctioned by Jesus: divorce for sexual immorality (Mat 5:31-32). To not allow what God allows is no different than allowing what God does not allow - which also brings God’s wrath against the covenant community (Isa 5:20, 23-25).

5.6. The most important institution on earth is marriage and the family, Christ’s marriage to the church and the covenant family that it creates (i.e., the church). Every other form of marriage and family is subservient to this given: 1) The marriage of Christ to His church is the archetype/model for human marriage and family (Eph 5:22-32). 2) the creation of the holy family (not the biological family) was the goal of all Creation (Eph 1:1-11 w/3:1-11 = God the Father’s plan for Creation was to gather a people for His glory – and future inheritance - a holy family [made holy] thru the redemption [and marriage covenant] realized and accomplished thru His Son, Jesus Christ ).

5.7. Respecting one’s parents looks different when a person is a child under the home and headship of their parents versus once that child becomes an adult and is no longer dependent – or living at home. The former requires full submission to their parent’s commands and wishes (sans anything directly opposed to God or His Word) (Eph 6:1-3), whereas the latter no longer requires such submission but only that the (now) adult independent child see to it that the needs of their elderly non-apostate parents are being met (Mat 15:1-6).

5.8. Based on what was just discussed, children being loyal to their parents above God or His church has never been acceptable or expected by God.

6. If your church is doing everything right then why have there been so many disciplinary cases – including excommunications and apostasies --as well as betrayal and moral failures among those serving as officers? The church is to be a place of peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. Again, these things signal a problem.

Our biblically obedient and coherent response:

6.1. The NT churches were filled with disciplinary cases -including excommunications and apostasies. As a matter of fact, many – if not most of the NT epistles or letters to the churches were written to deal with disciplinary matters (Rom 2:1-29; 1Co 3:1-18, 4:1-5, 18-21, 5:1-5, 6:1-11, 7:1-2, 8:1-13, 10:1-33, 11:1-22, 15:1-24; 2Co 1:21-2:11, 6:1-7:2, 10:1-11:33, 12:19-13:11; Gal 2:11-5:26; Col 2:8-23; 2Th 3:6-15; 1Ti 1:3-4, 18-20, 4:1-10, 6:20; Tit 1:10-16; Heb 3:12-14; 2Pe 3:14-18; Jud 1:3-4; Rev 2:1-3:22). If this was true for churches planted and pastored by the apostles, how much more those living in the worst or last days? We should therefore expect the church in the last days to feel as though they are over-run with such difficulties (Mat 24:10-12; 2Ti 3:1-17 = NOTICE where our confidence is to be in these difficult and confusing times).

6.2. Consider also the covenant communities under: 1) Moses (most went apostate – i.e., almost the entire 1st generation out of Egypt), 2) Jesus (many - if not most, of the Jewish religious leaders and people of Israel went apostate).

6.3. With regard to betrayal and moral failures among the leadership, this was also true for Moses (Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, Korah and his family). The same was true for Jesus. Though all-knowing, He was still burned by betrayal and moral failure among those He picked (e.g., again Judas and also Peter). Paul also suffered betrayal (Demas and Titus – 2Ti 4:10)

6.4. To speak of the church in terms of peace and joy in the Holy Spirit as though these are the only things that should characterize the church is highly misleading, especially given that the verse which speaks to this effect, starts with the attribute of righteousness (Rom 14:17 “righteous, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit”). Paul could not have conceived of a church filled with Holy Spirit peace and joy that was not also filled with righteousness given that the Spirit will not provide such things without it. IOW: You need to first be practicing righteousness (adherence to all of God’s law) - as prescribed by the Spirit in God’s Word, to receive His peace and joy.

6.5. The only problem signaled by the aforementioned concerns is that we are indeed living in difficult times. IOW: it is the world that has the problem not our church – unless we start looking and acting like the world (i.e., looking the other way rather than dealing w/the sin among us). Any church not filled with disciplinary issues is a church not being faithful to the Spirit (which means their peace and joy is false) (e.g., the majority of men and pastors are looking at porn~ how many are being disciplined out of the church? For many – if not most, this would cause them to close their doors).

7. Your church blindly follows the pastor or his interpretation of the Bible rather than listening directly to the Bible. The majority of Christians on the planet disagree with what you believe making your church a cult.

7.1. Many – if not most of the people in our church could hardly be labeled as “blindly” following their pastor given their regular and rigorous reading of the Bible, books on church history, theology, philosophy and ancient Jewish culture and beliefs. Not only that, but many in the congregation are also involved in apologetic or evangelistic forms of ministry where they are exposed to and learning about the beliefs of others claiming to be Christian. Last but not least, the congregation is frequently encouraged to vet the church’s beliefs against those who oppose it as well as ask questions where they find confusion or contradiction.

7.2. Though it is true that the congregation follows the teaching or interpretation of their pastor, this is true of all churches. The pastor is the one tasked with interpreting the Scriptures and teaching what he believes it to be communicating to his congregation. As part of this role, he is also to demonstrate that his interpretation and teaching on a particular text or subject are in agreement with the rules of literary communication (grammar, context) and the rest of what the Scriptures teach (2Ti 1:13, 2:15). This has been the regular practice of this church’s pastor.

7.3. The belief that one can listen directly to the Bible without the need for interpretation reveals a high level of ignorance in those making such claims given that the Bible does not interpret itself – nor does it always communicate in such a way that it can understood by simply reading alone. The fact that it was written in ancient languages unknown to most readers, with backstories, idioms and other literary devices also unknown to most readers, means that it is more likely that the average – or untrained reader will grossly misinterpret its message than truly understand what is being communicated. The probability of this is enhanced by the sinful instability of most along with their inability to understand the individual or smaller parts while not losing the larger metanarrative or message presented by the whole (e.g., 2Pe 3:15-18). The chances of getting a correct interpretation are therefore greatly increased for those afforded the aid of a person well-trained and able to demonstrate proficiency in the aforementioned disciplines.

7.4. All comments calling for the people of our church not to listen to their pastor and the teaching of our church – or accusing people of not thinking for themselves are in the end, hypocritical. If those making such claims were following their own advice, they would be forced to shut their mouths since by their advice, they are not truly calling for independent thinking but rather that people would (instead) listen to them.

7.5. Regarding what the majority believes as the litmus test for what we should believe, biblical history teaches otherwise. The majority is -more often than not, the place of error (e.g. OT and NT Israel). It is likewise a logical fallacy to think something to be true or correct because of its acceptance by the majority (Ad Populum).

7.6. The first Christians were condemned as a cult. We should therefore receive such accusations as a compliment.