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The Cloak and Dagger Podcast

Will Davis-Coleman and Patrick Courtney

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Will and Patrick explore strange and rarely told tales of history - from ancient Indian assassins and Baghdad scientists to Irish rebels and New York mob queens, and everything in between… And if you want to see even more for each episode, including sneak peeks, accompanying images and bonus facts, check out our instagram @cloakanddaggerpodcast
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Welcome to the Cloak & Dagger Podcast (aka CaD Podcast). On this show, we'll be recapping Freeform's Cloak and Dagger. We will have weekly episodes during the show's live airing and while on hiatus, we will still provide bi-weekly content!
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Cloak & Dagger is a podcast about OSINT, technology, global conflict, and the practitioners and investigators who work in these fields. Join host and journalist MJ Banias as he explores the stories that shape the worlds of intelligence, security, and technology. Cloak & Dagger is powered by Sapper Labs Group. For more information, https://sapperlabs.com/blogs/podcast
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As an old Irish proverb says “What whisky will not cure, there is no cure for”. And while I’m no doctor, I am Irish so I do believe there is something in that. Even in a land so divided it’s close to breaking, where a man may be countered as only three fifths of a person, this elixir could form the most unbreakable bonds that would last through gen…
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Well this has gotten out of hand. The new and improved England seemed to be going so well, but a sunken ship, a flurry of royal bastard, and few too many sexist principles and now the whole kingdom’s falling apart. I’m sure it’ll all work itself out… Welcome back to Part 2 of out tale of the Anarchy! For this episode of the podcast we are very exci…
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Ever have a family spat go a bit too far? Well 12th Century two cousins did just that, and their little argument over who got to sit in their grandfathers chair, tore the entire English Kingdom in half. And only 72 years after Aegon William the Conqueror had taken the throne. For this episode of the podcast we are very excited to have our friend Je…
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Can a great mind cut deeper than a sword? If the history of humanity’s endless wars with itself is anything to go on, the answer is undoubtably yes. Again and again, great scientists, engineers, and mathematicians have been pulled from their pursuit of unravelling the mysteries of our world and put to work creating terrible machines of war. And at …
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1930s New York was a city of opportunity. Where any man with enough grit and determination could make his fortune... inside or outside the law. But this was a world built by and for men. So who knows how much grit and determination it would take for a woman to make something of herself. Well, Anna Genovese knew exactly what it would take... In this…
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War is terrible. But some stories of war are even more terrible than others. Fighting on a strange island, in a strange land, for a lost cause, the Japanese imperial soldiers stationed on Ramree Island would learn the truth of this. In this episode of the Cloak and Dagger Podcast, we delve into what is truly one of the most terrifying moments of th…
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Do you believe in ghosts? This may seem an inappropriate question for this incredibly serious history podcast, but sometimes to broaden ones mind, one must leave the safe, factual world of history and journey into the world of the paranormal… Or at least into the bizarre tales of the paranormal from the past. In this episode of the Cloak and Dagger…
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On a misty morning off the Yemeni coast, the jewel of the Mughal Emperor's treasure fleet sails slowly eastwards. She is carrying a full cargo of solid gold bullion and jewels from Mecca to Surat..With its complement of 500 elite marines and crew of 250 seasoned sailors, the captain feels entirely secure. On the horizon he has noticed the puny west…
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In a factory in Homestead Pennsylvania, thousands of steel workers have downed tools and striking - their boss Andrew Carnegie is about to lower their wages and they have had enough. Then down the river the workers see three barges coming towards them - bristling with agents of the Pinkerton Detective Agency. Hired by Carnegie, they are here to bre…
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In the misty dawn of a March morning in 1829 a duel is about to take place in Battersea. Whilst duels were still fairly common at the time, they were frowned upon by most and especially by army generals like the Duke of Wellington. Wellington had outlawed duelling during the Napoleonic wars because he kept losing good officers to duels. And yet, it…
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A pirate, a president and a Dutchman are the last things a humble fisherman on the shores of Iceland might expect to see sailing in on the evening tide. But on one fateful night in 1627, all three rolled in in a single pair of boots. And the tale of the man that filled those boots, is a tale worth telling… The Cloak & Dagger Podcast is back with a …
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Host MJ Banias sits down with Sapper Lab's Director of Communications, Kennedy Chappell, in this Season 1 wrap-up episode. They walk us through their favourite episodes, what they've learned over this season, and how the show has impacted them. From AI conspiracy theories to tracking child predators, this episode takes you through the behind the sc…
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In this special bonus episode, Cloak & Dagger partnered with The Nighttime Podcast to dive into the bizarre story of Karim Baratov, the 22 year old Canadian involved in the Yahoo hack, the largest computer hack in history. Join MJ Banias and Jordan Bonaparte from Nighttime as they discuss this strange tale from the darkest parts of the internet, an…
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Host MJ Banias heads to Winnipeg to visit the Canadian Centre for Child Protection, a non-profit agency dedicated to eliminating child sexual abuse material (CSAM) from the internet. From supporting survivors of abuse to scraping the dark web to utilizing intelligence and OSINT techniques, the team at the centre has been responsible for some of the…
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Guest Griffin Glynn recounts a favorite story of how he went about scamming a scammer. From Grabify links, to breach data and social media searches, to a lot of social engineering, hear how the Director of Investigations for the National Child Protection Task Force spends his free time tracking down the people behind those email scams. You can find…
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2017 saw some of the wildest conspiracy theories, but the most prolific was QAnon. However, as the COVID pandemic swept through the world and with the election of a Democratic president in 2020, Q's followers began to vanish. Joining the show this week is Nick Backovic, an OSINT analyst with Logically AI, and he tells the tale of a mysterious and g…
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This one is a special case, that's for sure. Jacques Bizard - a Swiss Calvinist mercenary - met a French Catholic general called Louis de Frontenac. Their bond might well have gone from friendship to something more. Make your own mind up after listening!Por Will Davis-Coleman and Patrick Courtney
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Looking behind the shadows of Canadian history and shedding light on an overlooked chapter of LGBTQ+ persecution: The LGBT Purge. Joining us this is week is guest host, Kennedy Chappell, and Artur Wilczynski. Artur has more than 30 years in the Canadian public service working on foreign policy, intelligence, security, and defence issues, and is a c…
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After reading the histories of civilisation (or just by listening to this podcast) you may get the idea that war is humanity’s natural state. But the truth is that we fight just as hard to forge peace as we do to start a war. And while we have racked up a shockingly small number of years where no one has been at war (268, or just 8 percent of recor…
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Information is complex. The lines between fact and fiction have become easier to blur as new technologies create wild ecosystems of data. In this episode, Dr. Alicia Wanless from Carnegie’s Partnership for Countering Influence Operations, talks about whether disinformation is something we can even fight, and why it may end up costing us our heads. …
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In 2022, Sapper Labs Group was established by bringing together Sapper Labs Inc., Sapper Labs Cyber Solutions, and Dark River Systems. Behind this consolidation was the immense power and potential of Hunchly, originally developed by Justin and Clare Seitz and the team at Dark River Systems Inc. in 2016. Today we chat with Chief Innovation Officer J…
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Will and Patrick delve deep into the purge of the Cathar faith in Southern France. Sanctioned by the Pope and supported by the King of France, crusading knights and templars threw themselves against the walls of Cathar Carcassonne - attempting to crush the so-called heretics. But killing an idea is much harder than the destruction of a city. Tune i…
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In 2021, Newfoundland’s hospitals were hit by a massive Hive ransomware attack that halted them. We sit down with cyber policy expert Alexander Rudolph to talk about persistent engagement and how cybersecurity policy needs to be reshaped into a proactive and holistic system. You can find Alexander here: https://linktr.ee/alexfrudolph Cloak & Dagger…
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In the last episode with Marcus Kolga, we touched on a global investigation into the doping of Russian athletes during the 2014 Sochi Olympics. In this bonus episode, Sapper Labs’ Chief Intelligence Officer, Dave McMahon, discusses his personal work in elite sports, Canadian intelligence, and how the Olympics is more than just a sporting event, but…
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How far would you go to live up to a family name? If your ancestry included not one but two founders of empires, do you really have much choice in what life you are destined for? Afghanistan has seen the rise of dozens of empires over the course of the thousands of years people have called it home. And at the dawn of the 16th century, one of these …
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Public dissent in Russia is dangerous. Complex disinformation strategies, arrests, and assassinations are popular with the Kremlin. The activists who oppose these norms are risking their freedom and their lives. Founder of DisinfoWatch, Marcus Kolga, joins us on this episode to talk about the arrest of his friend, Vladimir Kara-Murza, and how Russi…
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War is hell. Unfortunately however, when an empire grows large enough it starts to forget that fact. Which makes it all the more horrifying when that harsh reality comes crashing down upon the poor foot soldiers of said empire. By the mid 19th century, Britain was rapidly growing into the largest empire in history, so conquering one small city in C…
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It's become increasingly difficult to determine the difference between fact and fiction. From the mouth of a sailor, a strange tale of a mystery island in the South China Sea—true or just another conspiracy from the dark tides of the internet? Author and artist Tim Boucher joins the show to discuss this mystery, and whether truth itself is just ano…
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Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Or that's at least how the saying goes. And a cursory glance at the last 12,000 years of human history would seem to confirm this rather bleak outlook. But is it always true? Can one hold absolute power and still maintain a modicum of civic virtue? Ask a Roman this question, and they might jus…
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Steven Carrillo shot and killed two law officers in 2020 in an attempt to incite a second American Civil War. Journalist, lawyer, and OSINT instructor Gisela Pérez de Acha joins the show to talk about her work in uncovering his motives, his role in the Boogaloo movement, and how open-source intelligence can track down networks of extremists who use…
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Are Science and Religion perhaps the oldest of rivals? Reason vs faith. Scripture vs hypothesise. Maybe, or maybe it’s just the power-hungry people who live their life by one or the other who perpetuate this eternal rivalry. This week’s episode follows a man who epitomises this rivalry. A man of science whose flagrant disregard for ecclesiastical t…
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A collective of hackers from Latin America, Guacamaya, hack into government and corporate servers. Rallying around calls for justice, many people see Guacamaya as a modern day Robin Hood, hacking Sherwood Forest to weaken the rich and empower the poor. Journalist and researcher, AJ Vicens, joins the show to discuss their hacks, the culture they cre…
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Icelanders are a people forged in the fires of volcanoes and tempered in the frosts of glaciers. They are the descendants of Vikings who found the freezing winters of Norway too gentle. And they are masters of a land and sea which the gods themselves think twice about before entering. So when a foreign power dares to lay claim to the treasures of I…
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Every tool can be used for good—or evil. A series of leaked documents reveal that some companies sell OSINT tools targeting activists and journalists in an attempt to monitor and track them. Investigative journalist Phineas Rueckert expands on the work he did looking into some of these OSINT firms, and the dark secrets they keep. You can find his w…
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Host MJ Banias is live at CANSEC, Canada's largest global defence and security trade show. In this episode, we make a coffee run, and chat with Charlotte Duval-Lantoine, a fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. We discuss her book, and how we need to examine our national defence system to understand the culture. Cloak & Dagger is a podcas…
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Host MJ Banias is live at CANSEC, Canada's largest global defence and security trade show. In this episode, MJ sits down with Dave McMahon, Chief Intelligence Officer with Sapper Labs Group. They chat about the Sapper Labs difference, and why a diverse team makes a world of difference in the intelligence game. Cloak & Dagger is a podcast about OSIN…
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OSINT analysts and investigators often deal with massive piles of data. Similar to a 5000 piece puzzle, all those little tiles poured out on a table seem chaotically overwhelming. In this episode, analyst Ritu Gill dives into how we need to utilize open sources to understand how all those puzzle pieces fit together, and why governments need OSINT t…
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Host MJ Banias is live at CANSEC, Canada's largest global defence and security trade show. In this episode, we're stepping into virtual reality with Harold Dumur from OVA. Whether it's learning how to do repairs to an aircraft, train soldiers, or even run OSINT analysis—VR may be the next step in training.. or in reality itself. Dive into the metav…
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Host MJ Banias is live at CANSEC, Canada's largest global defence and security trade show. In this episode, he takes a leap into the world of quantum cryptography with Mike Redding, the CTO of Quantropi. Encryption is what keeps your data secure, but as quantum computers loom on the digital horizon, all that encryption is pretty much useless. Stayi…
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Host MJ Banias is live at CANSEC, Canada's largest global defence and security trade show. In this episode, he jumps into a brand new OSINT tool built by Microsoft that utilizes AI to make investigations and analysis faster, easier, and more effective. He is joined by George Earl and Derek Dobson from Microsoft, and they explore how AI is changing …
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Nations are built by stories. They shape people's thinking, building a foundation where identities are moulded. In this episode, political scientist and national security expert, Dr. Christian Leuprecht, dives into the world of defence and intelligence, and explains why we often choose to bury our heads in the sand, disregarding the ever-changing w…
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The glorious revolution is a tale that almost every country in world considers part of its history, in one form or another. An underdog tale of dashing revolutionaries taking on insurmountable odds in the name of freedom, liberty and justice. And while tragedy may befall them for a time, all these tales end in the toppling of statues and the triump…
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Sexual exploitation of children is a fast-growing problem, and the internet has only made it easier for predators to find and target minors. In this episode, the Chief Investigator of the National Child Protection Task Force, Griffin Glynn, tells us about his work tracking down predators using OSINT, and exposes how those predators attempt to hide …
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OSINT is a team sport, because if you think you can do it alone, you can only imagine what you've missed...literally. Guest Micah Hoffman tells a few stories about his early days, his successes, his blunders, and why anyone who thinks they are the "god of intelligence gathering" is probably making a lot of mistakes. -You can find Micah's work here:…
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When you think of Canada, it's all maple syrup, friendly people, and hockey. However, it's much more complicated. Whether its Chinese interference in Canadian politics, terror threats, or the rising tide of extremism; Canada's fairy tale story is starting to slip away. Veteran counter-terrorism and intelligence expert Phil Gurski weighs in on Canad…
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Hello hello everyone! We are so happy that we have finally got a new episode to give to you after a long pause! Here Patrick and Will chat with fellow podcasters Patrick Little and Jamie Graham (from A Little History Podcast and Jammy History Podcast respectively) about the magnicently awful masterpiece Gods of Egypt (2016) - so sit back and listen…
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Will and Patrick had the great honour of being asked to make an episode for the History of England Podcast and this was the result! 1307, Westminster. King Edward I has moved his court to York whilst he wages war on the Scots. Westminster is almost empty of people, however, a small gang of lowly functionaries are drinking in the pub one night and d…
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War is a time when heroes and villains are born from the crucible of battle. Or at least that’s what the legends and tales that sprout forth from a war-torn people would tell us. But how do you separate the true history from the poetry? In this final episode of the Cloak and Dagger Battles miniseries, we attempt just that as we journey to ancient C…
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