{HBR 48} The Metacosmologist is IN with Megan Elizabeth Morris

Holistic Business Radio – The Podcast of the Love and Money Revolution – with Andy Dolph and Rhiannon Llewellyn

In our first in this series of special episodes, we talk what Metacosmology is and how that can inform living and doing business in a new way. This grew out of our last conversation with Megan. You can listen to it here! You DO NOT need to listen to the previous episode for this one to make sense, but it fills in more of this whole discussion and is highly recommended. Scroll down for show notes! We love your feedback! Please let us know what you think – email us at [e-mail], or leave us a comment below. If you’re not subscribed, please join us! How to subscribe: Most people subscribe to podcasts in iTunes; click the button to view the podcast in iTunes. Show notes from this bonus episode with Megan Elizabeth Morris: Andy talks again with Megan Elizabeth Morris of Ideaschema. This is the first in a series of special bonus episodes of Holistic Business Radio entitled “The Metacosmologist is In.” That title begs the questions: “What is a metacosmologist?” and “Why is Megan one?” Megan says that she hopes Andy isn’t hoping for a serious answer because if he is he might be partially disappointed. The metacosmology thing is tongue-in-cheek and is kind of a joke with Megan, much like a lot of things are these days for Megan because everything she says might as well be made-up based on what she perceives as her experience in the world, which is what everyone does no matter how they describe themselves. Over the last few months, Megan had been trying to identify certain kinds of patterns in her life and in the world and in her perceptions and come up with some sort of word that would describe or refer to what she was doing when she worked on those patterns. It eluded her for a while, and she knew it had to do something with analogical thinking—where you understand Thing A by telling a story about Thing B—but she knew it also had a lot to do with different abstractions, levels and angles and permutations or patterns of things, and of course, she has zero academic background in this sort of observation and learning, other than her own self-directed reading and casual research. So she decided that if she could find something that referred to all of this and seemed logical, considering the way the English language works, that she would be happy. But ultimately, any of us is the metacosmologist when we seek to identify and understand those same patterns. She spends most of her time these days vacillating between being the Metacosmos and the metacosmologist, which is just another way of saying “between just being—like a rock or a tree or an animal or a Megan versus observing and thinking about what is the being that I am.” So that’s maybe a less complicated or a more complicated way of explaining part of it. Andy asks Megan what metacosmology means. Megan says that, for her, it’s a reference to the Universe being a Matryoshka nested doll, but something way more complex. So when she says “the Universe”—which is always what she has called it when referring to some kind of Big Thing—what she really means is the Metacosmos because what that represented to her felt so much more accurate considering the figuring that she had done. She says that it’s all her perception and that it starts to sound like crazy talk… until you start to look at all the pieces. So that’s what she’s doing: looking at all the pieces of what she is just referring to as the Metacosmos, which is maybe all of everything or maybe just her or a single atom in her body or whatever. There are a lot of directions from which metacosmology makes a lot of sense to her because the patterns all seems to fit together in really interesting ways. She admits that she doesn’t have a lot of experience talking about this in an abstract way, but in terms of how things relate to metacosmology in concrete ways, like if you’re talking about one specific thing; those are the things that she has been seeing over and over again and what she has bee...