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In this episode Caroline and Liz bring you the moment Axel Rudakubana was sentenced to at least 52 years in prison. In all likelihood he will never be released. The judge said he murdered three of the girls he attacked, but he would have killed more if they hadn’t run for their lives - he wanted to carry out mass murder. In the terrifying attack wh…
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Today Caroline and Liz continue to discuss the fallout from Axel Rudakaban’s guilty pleas. They also chat to criminologist Professor David Wilson about the case, who explains his theories about Rudakubana and why he might have been driven to kill and why that police mug shot may have been part of his plan to become notorious. Learn more about your …
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Today Caroline and Liz start to discuss the fallout from the horrific attack on children in Southport. How Axel Rudakubama was able to murder and attack children when school, the police, social services, mental health workers and even the Government’s Prevent Programme knew about his obsession with violence. Among others asking questions today is t…
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Axel Rudakubana has admitted carrying out the attacks on a Southport dance school which claimed the lives of three little girls. Six-year-old Bebe King, seven-year-old Elsie Dot Stancombe, and nine-year-old Alice da Silva Aguiar were killed when he went on the rampage with a kitchen knife, as they and other children made friendship bracelets. Today…
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Last summer, like thousands of children during the school holidays, three little girls in Southport in the North of England joined their friends to attend a dance school. But six-year-old Bebe King, seven-year-old Elsie Dot Stancombe, and nine-year-old Alice da Silva Aguiar never came home. They were brutally attacked when a knifeman went on the ra…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you an exclusive interview with a former military intelligence officer who appeared as an expert witness in the trial of Daniel Khalife. Dr Frank Ledwidge has years of experience working in human intelligence and has detailed knowledge of the Iranian intelligence apparatus that Daniel Khalife has now been co…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the verdicts in the trial of Daniel Khalife after he was found guilty of spying for Iran and gathering the personal details of soldiers, but not guilty of perpetrating a bomb hoax. The episode features an exclusive interview with Commander Dominic Murphy of the Metropolitan Police about Daniel Khalife's …
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the closing speeches of the prosecution and defence, as the jury in the trial of Daniel Khalife retired to consider their verdicts. Prosecutor Mark Heywood KC claimed Daniel Khalife endangered national security with his one-man spying mission, but Gul Nawaz Hussain KC, for the defence, told jurors that t…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the end of Daniel Khalife’s cross-examination by the prosecution in which he strenuously denied that he wanted help from agents of Iran after he escaped from prison. The episode also features the evidence of a defence expert who said the supposedly sensitive documents Daniel Khalife had been passing to t…
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In this episode Caroline and Jack have the moment Daniel Khalife changed his plea to Guilty and admitted escaping from Wandsworth Prison strapped under a food delivery van. He was cross examined in the witness box by the prosecutor Mark Heywood about the spying charges he still denies. He said he was a patriot and did not deserve to be sent to Belm…
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A quick Trial Update from Caroline and Jack after Daniel Khalife's three days in the witness box. These short bonus episodes won't replace our usual longer episodes which will drop into your feeds as usual, they're just bite-sized updates from court. In this one Daniel Khalife says during his time as a "double agent" he was acting like a mad man at…
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In this episode Caroline and Jack have Daniel Khalife's evidence about why he escaped from Wandsworth Prison - he said it was so he would be classified as a high-risk prisoner and better protected from some of the most serious offenders. During his evidence to the jury at Woolwich Crown Court he said he used kitchen trousers which he clipped to the…
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Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy are back with the very latest from Woolwich Crown Court as Daniel Khalife himself takes to the stand. In this episode we bring you Khalife’s testimony. We hear about his parents, his upbringing, the reasons he joined the military and the justification for some of his actions that brought him to court. We hear how he…
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Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy are back with the very latest from Woolwich Crown Court in The Trial of Daniel Khalife. In this episode we bring you the details of Khalife’s alleged escape. We hear how he clung to the bottom of a food lorry which prison guards allowed to leave HMP Wandsworth despite knowing a prisoner was missing. The man-hunt tha…
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In light of the Not Guilty verdict for firearms officer Martyn Blake, join us for the final episode of this series as we discuss the fallout of this landmark case. This includes today's announcement from the Home Secretary that there will now be a presumption of anonymity for all firearms officers facing trial over shooting in the course of duty up…
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The jury have returned a Not Guilty verdict for firearms officer Martyn Blake. But what of Chris Kaba, the man he shot? In this episode we delve into the 24 year old’s criminal past which we weren't allowed to report during the trial. Kaba was a member of one of South London’s most notorious and dangerous county lines drug gangs. His convictions da…
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Sgt Martyn Blake of the Metropolitan Police has been found Not Guilty of the murder of Chris Kaba. Join Caroline Cheetham and George Odling with the very latest from The Old Bailey as the jury reach their verdict in this historic case. In September of 2022, a 24 year old was shot through his car windscreen by a Metropolitan Police firearms officer.…
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Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy are back with the very latest from Woolwich Crown Court in The Trial of Daniel Khalife. In this episode we bring you the most comprehensive account that Daniel Khalife has provided for his actions so far. He explains his plans to mount his own intelligence operation after being told his Iranian heritage would be a b…
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Join Caroline Cheetham and George Odling bringing you the very latest from The Trial of Officer Blake as it nears its conclusion. In this episode we hear the words Martyn Blake used to describe the chaotic events leading up to the gunshot that caused Chris Kaba's death. He answers questions on whether his intention was to kill and whether he was aw…
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Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy are back with the very latest from The Trial of Daniel Khalife at Woolwich Crown Court. In this episode we hear how Daniel Khalife was advised his bright prospects on his army unit would be restricted by his Iranian heritage. We bring you the voicenotes he exchanged with his so-called Iranian handlers and discuss hi…
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Caroline Cheetham and George Odling are back with the very latest from The Trial of Officer Blake. In September of 2022, a 24-year-old, father-to-be, was shot through his car windscreen by a Metropolitan Police firearms officer. Chris Kaba died in hospital that night and Martyn Blake now stands trial for murder. The CPS’s decision to prosecute led …
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Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy are back with the very latest from Woolwich Crown Court in The Trial of Daniel Khalife. In this episode we hear about the moment Daniel Khalife allegedly strapped himself to the underside of a food truck to break out of prison. The prosecution continue their arguments that he was actively engaged in securing confide…
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A prisoner on the run. A four-day man-hunt. Espionage, foreign agents and enemy states…The Trial is back with a new series… In September of 2023, Daniel Khalife was discovered riding a bike along a north London canal by a plain clothed police officer after allegedly breaking out of HMP Wandsworth. He was found after four days of an intense nation-w…
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In this episode Caroline and George hear evidence from the firearms officers who were on duty on the night of the shooting. One told the jury he almost fired the shot himself because he was in fear for his life as the Audi revved its engine. Another said Martyn Blake was not angry or frustrated as has been alleged by the prosecution, and another sa…
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In the first episode of the Trial of Officer Blake, Caroline and George have the opening to the case at the Old Bailey, and the prosecutor's claims that firearms office Martyn Blake shot Chris Kaba in the head without justification. We hear that Chris Kaba had been trying to escape from police in his Audi Q8, but that he posed no threat when he was…
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The following is a sample of our brand new series 'The Trial of Erin Patterson'. To listen to the full episode, search for 'The Trial of Erin Patterson' wherever you get your podcasts. Australian mother-of-two, Erin Patterson, has been charged with three counts of murder and five counts of attempted murder after allegedly serving poisonous mushroom…
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This is a 10 minute preview of Addressing the Doubters, the first episode of The Trial of Lucy Letby: The Inquiry. To listen to the full episode search “The Trial of Lucy Letby: The Inquiry” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesPor Daily Mail
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In this final episode of the season, Caroline, Jack and Katie discuss the sentencing of Gavin Plumb, who was given three life sentences for his plot to kidnap, rape and kill Holly Willoughby. We also hear that the impact on her has been “catastrophic” and “life changing”. Plus Criminologist Professor David Wilson on how fantasy was reality for Gavi…
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In this episode, Jack and Katie bring you an exclusive interview with one of the past victims of Gavin Plumb, who is speaking publicly about her ordeal for the first time following his conviction for plotting to kidnap, rape and murder the TV presenter Holly Willoughby. Emma Ashby was just 16 and working at Woolworths when Gavin Plumb - who was her…
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In this episode, Katie and Jack bring you the verdicts in the trial of Gavin Plumb. He has been found guilty of plotting to kidnap, rape and murder the TV presenter Holly Willoughby. The episode will reflect on the verdict and bring you new details about the case that have never been reported before. Gavin Plumb denies soliciting murder, encouragin…
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In this episode, Jack and Katie bring you the latest from the trial of Gavin Plumb as the jury were sent out to deliberate whether he is guilty of plotting to kidnap, rape and murder the TV presenter Holly Willoughby. It features the closing speeches of both the defence and prosecution, which has left the jury to decide whether Gavin Plumb genuinel…
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In this episode Caroline and Katie bring you the words of Gavin Plumb as he gave evidence in the witness box. He told the jury his attempts to kidnap women in the past had been a cry for help, and his “plot” to kidnap Holly Willoughby was nothing more than online chat. We also have the dramatic moment police broke down his door to arrest him. Gavin…
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In this episode Caroline and Katie bring you some of the many messages and voice notes Gavin Plumb exchanged with people online as he allegedly plotted to assemble a crew to kidnap, rape and kill the TV presenter Holly Willoughby. His alleged plan unravelled, the jury’s been told, when one of the people he started messaging was an undercover US age…
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In this episode Katie Hind and Jack Hardy bring you the start of the case of a security guard’s alleged plot to kidnap, rape and kill the TV presenter Holly Willoughby. Gavin Plumb allegedly assembled a kidnap kit of cable ties, rope and chloroform, and tried to find a “crew” in chat groups online to help him. The jury’s been told he was obsessed w…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the conclusion to the trial of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon - which has ended with the jury being discharged. They discuss what this means for the defendants and speak to media law expert David Banks about what happens next. Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death an…
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Please follow 'The Trial of Lucy Letby' wherever you get your podcasts and give us a follow. In this episode Caroline and Liz are back at Manchester Crown Court as neo-natal nurse Lucy Letby returns to the dock. This time she is facing one charge – the attempted murder of a very premature baby girl, known as Baby K. Today, as the trial got underway…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the latest from the Old Bailey where the jury are continuing to consider their verdicts in the trial of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon. It will also feature an interview with court reporter Paul Cheston about the decades he spent working at arguably the world’s most famous court: The Old Bailey. Warnin…
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A very special, week-long true crime event is coming on Monday 3rd June. Nearly 50 years after the high society murder that captivated the world, we present... The Trial of Lord Lucan. Using exclusive, never before seen documents and mesmerising testimony, presenters Caroline Cheetham and Stephen Wright, along with some of the world's most revered …
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In this episode Caroline and Jack explore why juries serving on trials are not given more support. It's because a new pilot project to offer counselling to juries is being launched in 15 parts of the country. We'll be talking to the two psychologists whose research into the impact on juries of serving on a trial, is the driving force for this. Warn…
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In this episode Caroline and Jack explore why juries serving on trials are not given more support. It's because a new pilot project to offer counselling to juries is being launched in 15 parts of the country. We'll be talking to the two psychologists whose research into the impact on juries of serving on a trial, is the driving force for this. Warn…
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In this episode Caroline and Jack bring you the moment the Judge, Mark Lucraft KC sent the jury out to start their deliberations. After more than three months of hearing evidence the decisions are now up to them. Before he did this he reminded the jury of the key evidence in the case and what they need to consider during their deliberations. Legal …
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In this episode Caroline and Jack bring you the Judge, Mark Lucraft KC. His job now, at the end of this trial, is to sum up this case, to remind the jury of the evidence they've heard. Today he reminded them what Constance Marten had told them as she spent several days in the witness box. He also referred to the evidence from the two pathologists w…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the closing speech of Constance Marten's barrister, Francis Fitzgibbon KC, as he urged jurors to acquit her of the killing of her baby, Victoria. He told the Old Bailey 'the evidence isn't there' to convict the aristocrat and her partner Mark Gordon over Victoria's death and accused the prosecution of de…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the defence closing speech made on behalf of Mark Gordon by John Femi-Ola KC. He describes Constance Marten as a 'lioness' protecting her cubs and said the death of Baby Victoria was a 'tragic accident'. The episode also features the end of prosecutor Tom Little KC's closing speech. Warning: This podcast…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the closing speech of the Prosecutor Tom Little KC. He told the jury Constance Marten had told “big fat lies” in her defence. Lies, he said, which “fell like confetti from her lips”. And he said despite Mark Gordon “grandstanding” to police about his “rights” he had refused to give evidence when the mome…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you more of the tense exchange between Professor Peter Fleming and Tom Little KC. The court has also been told that Constance Marten’s parents did hire private investigators to try to track her down, but they said this was not when she was on the run with baby Victoria. Warning: This podcast references court…
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Launching Friday 19th April, Vogue Williams hosts The Apple and The Tree, a brand new podcast where a parent and their adult child get to ask each other about the parts of their shared history they’ve always wanted to know more about, but never given themselves the time to do so. These are deep, intimate and revealing conversations that move throug…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you a key witness in the defence case of Constance Marten - an expert who investigates the unexpected death of babies. Prof Peter Fleming told the court he thought Constance Marten’s account was ‘extraordinarily consistent’ and cast doubt on how the prosecution say Baby Victoria died. Warning: This podcast r…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the final day of Constance Marten’s evidence from the witness box as she told jurors she had wanted to get an autopsy for her baby in the hope she would find the death wasn’t her fault. The episode also features her claim that she had neglected herself to the point of exhaustion in trying to look after B…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack will bring you the latest from the evidence of Constance Marten, as she defended her decision to take her newborn baby into a tent in the middle of winter - saying that 'Jesus survived in a barn'. The episode will also feature claims that a man Constance Marten said inspired her plan to flee abroad has also used h…
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