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For us, ministry fundraising is the overflow of a deep sense of purpose. In “It’s Not About the Money”, we look past formulas, and explore both the nuance and the big picture of the fundraising journey. It’s not about tips, tricks, or clever phrasing. It’s about being grounded. Each episode focuses on an aspect of real life as a support-seeker. We hold space for both practice and theory. Join us as we explore the truth that, while the funding is essential, it’s not about the money.
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It’s not about the money is for women in business who know they want to make more money whilst holding onto more money and growing an abundance of wealth. You're tired of overgiving, undercharging and being stuck in a scarcity money mindset. You know you have it in you, you just need financial confidence and an abundant mindset. You're excited and ready to learn what it takes to make more money, invest and step into wealth. Hosted by Catherine Morgan, Author, Award-winning Financial Wellbein ...
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Research tells us that 90% of all financial decisions are made emotionally, not logically. For nearly four decades, Rick Kahler, CFP®, CFT-I™, has helped people make better money decisions. What makes his financial world view different from most financial experts? He blend the nuts and bolts of financial advice with the emotions that drive making them. Every financial behavior, whether it appears illogical to you or others, makes perfect sense when we understand the underlying beliefs, feeli ...
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Discover the surprising emotional journey behind senior discounts in this episode, where we unravel the mix of pride, resistance, guilt, and even shame that often accompany these perks of aging. Why do some seniors hesitate to claim what they’ve earned? How do societal views on aging influence these feelings? And how can we shift our perspective to…
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In this episode of the It's Not About the Money podcast, I explore the reasons behind procrastination, particularly in relation to financial decisions. I discuss how emotions such as fear of failure, fear of success, perfectionism, and overwhelm can hinder our ability to make money-related choices. I emphasize the importance of understanding money …
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! Join Heather and co-host Jenn as they conclude their mini-series on the unique considerations of support raising in ethnically diverse communities. In this episode, they are joined by Beth Smith, interim MPD director with BSM in Texas. Beth shares her extensive experience in fundraising within the Bap…
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In this insightful episode, we delve into how U.S. election outcomes influence retirement planning, revealing a surprising pattern: many advisors and clients react to political uncertainty with fear-driven investment decisions, often to their detriment. Reflecting on the 2016 and 2020 elections, we explore how market reactions defied expectations. …
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In this conversation, I share my personal journey of talking a pause on my podcast and other business areas and the profound transformation it has brought to my life. I discuss my experiences of visiting Necker Island, my ADHD diagnosis, and what an ice bath with Sir Richard Branson taught me about resilience. I also explore the concept of identity…
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In this podcast episode, we're diving into the critical role that emotional intelligence (EQ) plays in your financial success. Understanding and managing your emotions is key to making smart money decisions, and we're here to help you assess where you stand. We’ll explore ten definitive ways to evaluate your EQ, from recognizing emotions, emotional…
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Fear and frustration about Social Security's future are spreading like wildfire, especially during election seasons. Politicians have intensified these concerns, warning that Social Security will go broke by 2035. This has left many, especially younger workers, feeling bitter and anxious about their financial futures. Stories of individuals doubtin…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! In this fifth episode of the mini-series, Heather and Jenn are excited to welcome Jeremiah Vaught, who, along with his wife Maysa, has been deeply involved in ministry and church planting in Chicago. Jeremiah shares his journey from the initial days of fundraising to planting a church in one of the mo…
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When people think of "Dying Broke," they often picture spending their retirement on memorable experiences, influenced by optimism bias. However, the harsh reality is that many will outlive their financial resources due to long-term health care costs, driven by availability heuristic and anchoring bias. The hidden and escalating fees in assisted liv…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! Join Heather and special co-host Jenn as they continue their mini-series focused on fundraising considerations from ethnically diverse backgrounds. In this episode, they are thrilled to speak with Dennis and Evangeline Chow, who are currently serving in the Philippines. The Chows share their unique jo…
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The transition to retirement often prompts crucial questions about financial well-being. Is ongoing financial planning or therapy essential during this new life chapter? And can retirees realistically afford these services? While the importance of financial guidance in retirement is undeniable, the feasibility of accessing such support varies widel…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! Join Heather and co-host Jenn as they continue their mini-series on fundraising in ethnically diverse communities with special guest Chay'vion Carter. Chay'vion, who has been working with Campus Outreach at the University of North Texas since 2021, shares his unique journey of raising support from a B…
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In this episode, Rick explores the evolving perspectives on career and passion within the financial life planning community. Once an advocate of "do what you love and the money will follow," many early life planners have now realized the challenges of balancing fulfilling work with financial stability. Featuring insights from Scott Galloway and Jon…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! Join Heather and co-host Jenn as they dive into the unique challenges and opportunities of support raising in ethnically diverse communities with special guest Becca Acuna. Becca, who has been working with Texas BSM in San Antonio for the past five years, shares her journey from nursing to campus mini…
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In this episode, we delve into the evolving definition of "inflation" and the cognitive biases influencing public perception. While economists traditionally define inflation as the gradual loss of purchasing power reflected in the CPI, many Americans now equate it with high prices. This shift, highlighted in Mike Allen's article "The New Inflation,…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! Join Heather and her new co-host, Jen Smith, as they kick off a mini-series focusing on support raising in ethnically diverse communities. Jen shares her unique journey from high school fundraisers to long-term missions in China, and the cultural nuances she navigated within Korean American churches. …
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Rick tackles a common misconception about Social Security benefits. Many people opt to take their benefits early to avoid leaving money on the table if they pass away young. However, this very reason is exactly why they should consider waiting and why cognitive biases and emotions keep us locked into making a poor decision. We’ve all heard that by …
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! Join Heather and Andy as they kick off a new mini-series focusing on support raising in ethnically diverse communities with a compelling conversation featuring Brandon and Cat Samuel from Wycliffe Bible Translators. They delve into the Bridge Program, an initiative aimed at bringing more diverse staff…
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Are you struggling to break free from unhealthy money habits? Do anxiety and shame sabotage your financial goals? In this video, I dive into a groundbreaking therapeutic approach called Internal Family Systems (IFS). You'll learn how IFS can help you understand the "parts" within you that drive your money behaviors. We'll explore how these internal…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! Heather and Andy are joined in the RECAP by Jess and Bo Bissell, support raising coaches from Pioneers. Jess and Bo share their unique journey from missionaries in Japan to coaching new and seasoned workers in partnership development. They open up about their experiences, the challenges of rejuvenatin…
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Feeling stuck? In this episode, host Rick chats with psychotherapist and best-selling author Britt Frank. Discover the neuroscience behind stuckness and practical tools to make positive changes in your life. Britt discusses the difference between feeling stuck due to a lack of choices versus disliking your options. She emphasizes the importance of …
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! In this episode, Heather and Andy are joined by Callie Davis from the Via Generosity team to delve into the crucial aspect of spiritual health in support-based ministry. Callie shares her journey from growing up in a support-raising family to her current role in creating resources for partnership deve…
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Ditch the stigma! This episode dives into the surprising benefits of prenups, even for young couples starting fresh. We'll show you how exploring a prenup, whether you choose to create one or not, can spark crucial conversations about finances, debt, and your future together. Forget just dividing assets - prenups can build communication, trust, and…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Heather and Andy are joined by Dr. Mandy, a newly minted Doctor of Education in Organizational Change and Leadership from the University of Southern California. Together, they recap the insightful conversation with Josh Lindstrom, focusing on themes of en…
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Forget everything you think you know about Ebenezer Scrooge! This video unravels the surprising truth behind his "miserly" ways. Was he really only concerned for himself ? OR did his spending habits underscore that he suffered from hidden trauma that actually warped his ability for self-care? Discover the key to Scrooge's transformation (hint: it's…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! In this episode, Heather and Andy welcome back Pastor Josh Lindstrom, teaching pastor at Woodman Valley Chapel, to discuss the critical theme of endurance in fundraising. Pastor Josh shares insights from his own ministry and the biblical story of Elijah, highlighting the importance of rest, perseveran…
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Conclude the series with Rick and Celia as they tackle societal taboos around money discussions and draw parallels between financial secrecy and body shame. Explore the emotional complexities faced by individuals in larger bodies, navigate biases, and challenge assumptions about happiness and appearances. Gain insights into the link between self-wo…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Heather and Andy are joined by Danielle Nelson, a seasoned project manager with extensive experience in mobilizing and coaching people in support-based work. Together, they recap the enlightening conversation with Bryn and Christine, who shared their uniq…
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Dive deeper with Rick and Celia as they explore the profound link between feeling secure in your body and financial safety. Uncover the emotional drivers behind controlled or chaotic eating, and how both food and spending can be used to seek connection or disconnection. Learn about the psychological roots of money and food-related behaviors, emphas…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Andy welcomes special guest co-host Sarah Macy, who steps in for Heather. Together, they delve into the intricacies of short-term fundraising with guests Brynn Holtmeyer and Christine Campanella. Brynn, a junior special ed major at Concordia University, a…
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Join financial therapist Rick and food & body image specialist Celia Clark as they shatter myths about health and unveil surprising connections between healing your relationship with food and managing your finances. The speakers explore the concept of "bonding" with food or money, and how societal pressures play a role. Explore the link between deb…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! In this episode, we recap our insightful conversation with Amy Young, founder of Global Trellis. To help us unpack the profound topics discussed, we are joined by Bernie Anderson from Growability. Bernie brings his extensive experience in business development and cross-cultural work to the table, offe…
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Money challenges cross income lines. This episode sparks a thought-provoking discussion on why everyone needs financial literacy. We explore limitations of current programs, delve into emotional aspects of money across income levels, and consider what else is needed. Join us as we challenge assumptions and discover new approaches to empower everyon…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! In this episode, Heather and Andy dive into a profound discussion with Amy Young, founder of Global Trellis and co-founder of Velvet Ashes. Amy shares her extensive experience in support-based ministry, spanning nearly three decades, and her insights into honoring humanity in the fundraising process. …
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Is homeownership the dream for everyone? Join Rick as he dives into the complex emotions behind renting vs. owning. Discover the hopes, fears, and personal factors that shape this life-altering decision. This insightful exploration goes beyond finances, offering valuable perspectives for financial planners and individuals seeking a holistic underst…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! We are joined by Amy Young of Global Trellis as we recap the Halligan episode and talk about the multifaceted reality of transition and disruption. It would be so helpful if you would take a moment to rate and review the show - thanks in advance! Have an idea for a guest or topic? WE WANT TO HEAR FROM…
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Forget financial utopias! This episode tackles the often-overlooked emotional realities of senior financial planning. Explore the unique hurdles faced by seniors, from navigating changing health to grappling with complex financial decisions. This eye-opening journey provides crucial insights for both seniors and their loved ones, empowering you to …
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! When life "throws a curveball," how do we navigate the unexpected challenges that shake the foundation of our plans and partnerships? In this episode, we explore the profound impact of life's unforeseen events on support-based ministry. Join us as we sit down with Seth and Megan Halligan, who share th…
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Family fortunes come with unique challenges. Join Dr. Moira Somers, a leading expert in wealth psychology, as she delves into the complexities of "business royalty." Explore the intricate web of challenges impacting relationships within families and communities, gaining valuable insights for navigating success and prosperity with grace. This episod…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! There was a lot to unpack in Carolyn Kellam's episode on domestic fundraising. We've already heard from listeners that it was an impactful and helpful topic to explore! Listen in as Heather and Andy share their biggest takeaways. It would be so helpful if you would take a moment to rate and review the…
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Ever seek money advice but struggle to follow through? You're not alone! Join Dr. Moira Somers, renowned psychologist and wealth expert, as she dives into the "procrastination puzzle" in finance. Explore the hidden design flaws and psychological roadblocks that hinder financial follow-through. Discover strategies to overcome procrastination and emp…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! Most support concepts are applicable no matter where you serve, but there can be unique factors when raising support for domestic ministry. We are joined in this episode by Carolyn Kellam of the Navigators. Carolyn currently serves as the Manager of Staff Funding and is responsible for the training fo…
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Feeling overwhelmed by money decisions? Struggling with past financial trauma? This episode is your guide! Join Rick as he answers the crucial question: "How do I know if I need a financial therapist?" Discover the key signs and emotions that might signal it's time to explore financial therapy. From emotional spending to lingering debt trauma, we'l…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! We are joined in this episode by Michelle Goodman. Week after week, we are so encouraged to hear people expound on what they heard AND bring additional perspective and wisdom. Michelle did that and brought some gems of her own into this recap. It would be so helpful if you would take a moment to rate …
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Join us for a special edition of the Financial Therapy Podcast as we celebrate our third anniversary! Host Rick Kaler reflects on the journey of producing 156 episodes, sharing insights and lessons learned along the way. Rick dives into an intriguing discussion on the psychology of picking up a penny, exploring various money scripts and the emotion…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! In our media and marketing-driven world, people -- as consumers -- can become quickly disenchanted. In fundraising, we want to strike a balance between being prepared and not "performing." Travis Cottrell joins us in this episode and highlights the importance of authenticity in approaching others and …
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Dive deeper with Dr. Prince Sarpong and Rick as they discuss the complex relationship between financial freedom and community harmony. Discover how embracing healthy boundaries within the Ubuntu philosophy can unlock true liberation. Learn how prioritizing relational well-being alongside financial goals leads to a more fulfilling and meaningful lif…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! Life, leadership, and fundraising coach Wes J. joins us for our recap of the conversation with Rebekah C on using your unique strengths in fundraising! If you would like to connect with Wes about coaching, send us a direct message at our instagram (its.not.about.the.money.pod). Take the Strengthsfinde…
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"Your money troubles run deeper than you think," says Dr. Prince Sarpong. Explore the impact of "Black Tax" and the Ubuntu philosophy on financial culture. Learn how cultural expectations, enabling dynamics, and community connection influence financial decisions. Discover a fresh perspective on financial freedom that goes beyond just the numbers. A…
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Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here! Last season, we took a couple of episodes to explore the Enneagram for insight into our motivations and how we show up uniquely in the world (and in fundraising). Today, we’re turning to another tool meant to help us identify our natural talents and leverage those for our good and the good of those ar…
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